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Sunday, June 26, 2005

First round of Bobover Din Torah commences

Today began the first of a series of Dinei Torah involving the two fighting divergent factions of Bobov. This one and each of the subsequent Dinei Torah will involve and hopefully help solve a different aspect of the dispute.

Comments:
What most people on Unger's side don't know yet is what their leaders won't tell them. That is that the thing thery are fantisising about the most, the big shul on 48 street, is not even being talked about, it's off the table,as per the agreements of the two sides. Also, the name Bobov stays by R'Benzion and is non-negotiotable. They are spreading the rumor, to make their oilom feel better, that Hatzadik M.Dovid said that WHEN he will get the shul, he will "lmaan Hashulem" let R' Benzion have it, and all the brainwashed zombies are being trainde to say "we don't want it anyways, it's full of machlokes" ! Yea Right ! They'll be thrilled to walk away with a few dollars, if they are lucky !

 

Are you serious ? thats not what i heard. i heard them saying that rosh hashana next yerar bz will be davening in bais yaakov !

 

why is it called a din torah? if these ungars believed in torah there wouldnt be any machlokes.the divre chaims Descendant is a halbershtaam. theres nothing to argue about. self destruction your headed for self destruction. you might as well let al sharpton be the rebbe

 

I myself belong to bobov. Yes bobov, not 48, 45, there's only one bobov, 4715 15th Ave. If other people have a problem with the bobover rebbe for whatever reason, leave gezunterheit, make a shul, yeashiva's etc. Just don't sell the crap that you are really bobov, because you know yourself that it is not true !

 

I too am Bobov, not 45 or 48 but 130 as in Route 130 In New Jeesey, My ruf is 6 ft down and turn over in his grave, No one of these guy [ BZ or Md] is wothy of filling the rufs shoes.

 

who is on the beis din?

 

hefker bais din hefker means which ever shul the three rabonom can get a good seat in they will vote for.

 

"What most people on Unger's side don't know yet is what their leaders won't tell them. That is that the thing thery are fantisising about the most, the big shul on 48 street, is not even being talked about, it's off the table,as per the agreements of the two sides. Also, the name Bobov stays by R'Benzion and is non-negotiotable."

Absolute lies. There are no preexiting conditions. RBZ wanted them, but it is not happening. This is just another fantasy from 48th street, like the emergency meeting of the beis din that was supposed to be last week. Let's just wait and see what comes out.

There are some things to look for: If RBZ has 48th street does he need to pay for it? (There are a number of reasons why for RMD 48th street is negotiable. Just imagine after a Yom Tov RMD with his thousands of chassidim leaving 48th street in front of RBZ'z house. He could easily let RBZ have it for a good price.) Are BOTH allowed to use the name Bobov? (I have been told this is the most likely result, irregardless of the other issues.) Or does RBZ need to pay for using it? What did RBZ end up with, and what could he have had if he had acted differently? (For example, he could have had 90% of Bobov, now he will be lucky if he ends up with 50% after the din Torah.) This last point is important, becasue RBZ has already lost, no matter what the Beis Din decides. RMD will not lose one person based on it, and there are a lot of people at 48 just waiting for RMD to have a normal place to doven.

 

when ungar looses he should move to newark and take his goilems with him.

 

I always thought Bobover Chassidim were normal,not like the SAtmar.I was wrong

 

Whoever loses can start fresh in Cleveland I heard they're looking for a bissele chassidus.
Leave Newark for the Shvartzzers they're doing a good job with it right now

 

unger is a golem

 

If you will listen to what the Taplower rov says, you will learn very many charomziks, and you will gebreder fun schloykim azoy!
Gay genzunterhayd palenky!
Der Goyische Englische Yid.

 

the rav is the rav! who's mordche david anyway?

 

So now you see!
You don't need to be a direct descendat of the Reabbwe, to be rebbe!
Chaim Shia'la Halberstam, a Tzanze Ainekel (HaRav Yankev Yossele's son), Son-in-law to the Satmare Rebbe ZTz"l is now Satmare Rebbe of Monsey. He isn't A Teitelbaum, but he is satmar. So HaRav Mordche Duvid Unger can be Bobov even though he isn't a halberstam. Besides R' Shlome Z"L liked him alot!!!!

 

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