Tuesday, February 12, 2008
Hasidic female lawyer Rachel Freier bridges the gaps
Unbelievably, the only Hasidic female lawyer in Kiryas Joel manages to raise a family of eight children, be a wife, practice law, do Hasidic outreach and education and even bake Challahs for Shabbos. She also incidentally just made a Shidduch with her oldest son.
Mazel Tov!
Rachel Freier, a Hasidic woman, explains to a crowd Sunday evening at Congregation Eitz Chaim in Monroe that different sects of Hasidic men wear different hats. Freier, a lawyer, was there to help correct misconceptions people might have about Hasidic life in Kiryas Joel, where she lives.
Monroe — The questions came spontaneously:
Are arranged marriages between Hasidic couples happy ones?
Do the Hasidim allow their children to explore philosophical doctrines or cultures other than those taught to them by their community?
Do Hasidic residents think about global warming, or any other consequences of their explosive population growth?
The answers came just as honestly.
Yes, Hasidic marriages are happy for the most part, though there are rare instances of divorce, said Rachel Freier.
No, Hasidim do not believe in subjecting children to temptation, recognizing how frail humans are when it comes to sin, she said.
And, no, Hasidim do not think about global warming. The zeal with which they pursue their family life does not allow the luxury of planning, she told the audience of about two dozen people from the secular community gathered Sunday at Eitz Chaim Synagogue on Orange Turnpike.
It was an informal affair, part of the synagogue's regular forums arranged by its sisterhood. Freier brought articles of Hasidic culture, including clothing and headpieces. She brought pictures of her family, and spoke of her sons, especially the oldest — she just made arrangements for him to get married.
"It goes without saying that the couple must be in love," she said of arranged Hasidic unions.
Freier spoke of her background: wife and mother of eight children, Brooklyn native, lawyer. She is an anomaly in both the Hasidic and secular world: a professional Hasidic woman willing to reach out to non-Hasidim about her religion and culture.
She provided a rare chance for residents of Orange, Sullivan and Rockland counties to better understand the Hasidic neighbors in their midst.
The Hasidim have a very different view of temptation than the secular world, she explained to a man in the audience who implied that the Hasidic way of life was too stifling. She compared it to allowing a child to be on the Internet unsupervised.
"I don't know if anyone can completely avoid sin, can you?" she asked the audience.
Some Hasidim might act pushy or arrogant, but they do not define the culture, she told a man who complained of Hasidic developers and bungalow owners who ignored laws in his Sullivan County town
"I hear what you're saying, and it hurts me, because I know you're right," she said of some unscrupulous men. "They're giving the impression that this is the way all Hasids are, and it's not."
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080212/NEWS/802120317
Mazel Tov!
Rachel Freier, a Hasidic woman, explains to a crowd Sunday evening at Congregation Eitz Chaim in Monroe that different sects of Hasidic men wear different hats. Freier, a lawyer, was there to help correct misconceptions people might have about Hasidic life in Kiryas Joel, where she lives.
Monroe — The questions came spontaneously:
Are arranged marriages between Hasidic couples happy ones?
Do the Hasidim allow their children to explore philosophical doctrines or cultures other than those taught to them by their community?
Do Hasidic residents think about global warming, or any other consequences of their explosive population growth?
The answers came just as honestly.
Yes, Hasidic marriages are happy for the most part, though there are rare instances of divorce, said Rachel Freier.
No, Hasidim do not believe in subjecting children to temptation, recognizing how frail humans are when it comes to sin, she said.
And, no, Hasidim do not think about global warming. The zeal with which they pursue their family life does not allow the luxury of planning, she told the audience of about two dozen people from the secular community gathered Sunday at Eitz Chaim Synagogue on Orange Turnpike.
It was an informal affair, part of the synagogue's regular forums arranged by its sisterhood. Freier brought articles of Hasidic culture, including clothing and headpieces. She brought pictures of her family, and spoke of her sons, especially the oldest — she just made arrangements for him to get married.
"It goes without saying that the couple must be in love," she said of arranged Hasidic unions.
Freier spoke of her background: wife and mother of eight children, Brooklyn native, lawyer. She is an anomaly in both the Hasidic and secular world: a professional Hasidic woman willing to reach out to non-Hasidim about her religion and culture.
She provided a rare chance for residents of Orange, Sullivan and Rockland counties to better understand the Hasidic neighbors in their midst.
The Hasidim have a very different view of temptation than the secular world, she explained to a man in the audience who implied that the Hasidic way of life was too stifling. She compared it to allowing a child to be on the Internet unsupervised.
"I don't know if anyone can completely avoid sin, can you?" she asked the audience.
Some Hasidim might act pushy or arrogant, but they do not define the culture, she told a man who complained of Hasidic developers and bungalow owners who ignored laws in his Sullivan County town
"I hear what you're saying, and it hurts me, because I know you're right," she said of some unscrupulous men. "They're giving the impression that this is the way all Hasids are, and it's not."
http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080212/NEWS/802120317
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איך האב פריעט אויף ענגליש גשריבן, אבעד דער בעה"ב האט נישט געהאט דער אמת ליב.
זי רעדט ענגלישת דער לאיער?
וואו האט זי א דעגרי פון?
זי וואקסט אונד האנדעלט א גאנצע מישפחה בי זיך אלין? וואוו! איהר מאן ארבעט נישט? "דער פעטער" הילפט אוך נישט? אפילו א ביסלה? געוואלדיק!
זי רעדט ענגלישת דער לאיער?
וואו האט זי א דעגרי פון?
זי וואקסט אונד האנדעלט א גאנצע מישפחה בי זיך אלין? וואוו! איהר מאן ארבעט נישט? "דער פעטער" הילפט אוך נישט? אפילו א ביסלה? געוואלדיק!
my marriage is an arranged marriage.
BOY DO I FEEL SOORY THAT I FELL FOR THE SHIDDUCH.
I'm in the process of Baruch Hashem getting divorced.
I personally know of several cases where arranged marriages ended up in divorce.
BOY DO I FEEL SOORY THAT I FELL FOR THE SHIDDUCH.
I'm in the process of Baruch Hashem getting divorced.
I personally know of several cases where arranged marriages ended up in divorce.
To:Sounds like a Lubavitcher..very nice!:
There are many Chassidishe women who are in Touro and advancing themselves with education to pay bills. Of all Chassidishe groups, Lubavitch has less college grads!
There are many Chassidishe women who are in Touro and advancing themselves with education to pay bills. Of all Chassidishe groups, Lubavitch has less college grads!
to anonymous 1/13/08 5:51am... The divorce rate in US is over 50% and thats by ...who live together before .so very intelligent observation, because you know divorce cases must be because was arranged http://www.divorcerate.org/
The statistics you cite mean nothing. Some people divorce even though their relationships were "within normal range" and one partner leaves for greener pastures, while others stay together with abnormal relationships. As an outsider you rarely know which are which.
"There are many Chassidishe women who are in Touro and advancing themselves with education to pay bills."
You mean bills for the $600 buggaboo for the 5 babies, matching European designer clothes for the gantze mishpuche, the $3000 shtreimel, the late-model luxury car, the mansion and the husband's gambling?
You mean bills for the $600 buggaboo for the 5 babies, matching European designer clothes for the gantze mishpuche, the $3000 shtreimel, the late-model luxury car, the mansion and the husband's gambling?
To:You mean bills for the $600 buggaboo for the 5 babies, matching European designer clothes for the gantze mishpuche, the $3000 shtreimel..."Look around, the educated ones are the least showy! Figure out why!
This is ridiculous. I meant she is like a Lubavitcher in that she is reaching out to frei yidden which is very unlike satmar and very like lubavitch to do. sheesh!
She is an impressive, hard workint lady. I heard nice things about her. There is a lot about Chassidus which is pointless--I, mean, that its not Chassidish in thought, but JEWISH--and a lot about the "heimish" mindset which is downright disturbing and disgusting. Set up marriages is not one of them, objectively speaking. But if the parents are pruste, unlearned people, and all their children know is to be pruste and grub, then they all disgust me.
please, the game is almost over, u can only keep people uneducated and down for so long...arranged marriages dont work, not being educated secularly doesnt work and having a ton of kids doesnt work...u end up with a rude, obnoxious, ignorant and abused society like u have in bnie berak and williamsburg...the game is over...science and education will prevail against myths and indoctrination...unless (as through out history) religion turns to violence and war to deal with losing control of society...gut shabbos!!!
Anonymous said:
please, the game is almost over, u can only keep people uneducated and down for so long...arranged marriages dont work, not being educated secularly doesnt work and having a ton of kids doesnt work...u end up with a rude, obnoxious, ignorant and abused society like u have in bnie berak and williamsburg...the game is over...science and education will prevail against myths and indoctrination...unless (as through out history) religion turns to violence and war to deal with losing control of society...
Huh?! They're not uneducated, they're differently educated. Arranged marriages clearly do work, in much higher percentages (no, that's not how I met my wife). Not being educated secularly does work - though it's harder to get a normal job, usually necessitating going into business, or into a friend's or relative's business. Having a ton of kids does work, as evidenced by the faster growth rate of the Chassidic community than either the Yeshivish or M.O. communities... "You end up with a rude, obnoxious, ignorant and abused society like u have in bnei brak and williamsburg." You obviously haven't spent a Shabbat in either community, but thanks for sharing your (more refined) prejudices with us...
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please, the game is almost over, u can only keep people uneducated and down for so long...arranged marriages dont work, not being educated secularly doesnt work and having a ton of kids doesnt work...u end up with a rude, obnoxious, ignorant and abused society like u have in bnie berak and williamsburg...the game is over...science and education will prevail against myths and indoctrination...unless (as through out history) religion turns to violence and war to deal with losing control of society...
Huh?! They're not uneducated, they're differently educated. Arranged marriages clearly do work, in much higher percentages (no, that's not how I met my wife). Not being educated secularly does work - though it's harder to get a normal job, usually necessitating going into business, or into a friend's or relative's business. Having a ton of kids does work, as evidenced by the faster growth rate of the Chassidic community than either the Yeshivish or M.O. communities... "You end up with a rude, obnoxious, ignorant and abused society like u have in bnei brak and williamsburg." You obviously haven't spent a Shabbat in either community, but thanks for sharing your (more refined) prejudices with us...