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Tuesday, March 25, 2008

Men arrested for soliciting attend a John School in Brooklyn 


How many Yarmulkas can you count?

It's a Tuesday evening in Brooklyn and "John School" is in session. Every couple of months, more than 100 men representing every race, background and social status gather to learn about the dangers of prostitution — to which some have had first-hand exposure.

Sitting in banquet-style chairs in a windowless lecture hall, they wear everything from sweats to designer suits. There are Yankees hats and yarmulkes. Briefcases, sneakers and loafers line the aisles.

But they do share one thing in common: every participant was arrested after offering undercover cops money for sex.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=4488623&page=1

Comments:
Excellent find, I see three kappelech.

 

I know one of those guys. Do I approach him in shul?

 

This program was on last Friday night. Oy!

 

HaHa- LOL
Glad this is out in the public eyes now. Maybe these guys will stop this stupidity. Then they go home to their wives. That's the sad part.

 

there are 3 kappelech what is wrong with them the rabbanim should ban it

 

Where's Waldo? Rather, "Where's Yoily?"

 

The least they could have done was wear baseball caps. No shame.

 

Im glad this is posted. There are so many more yarmulka's that don't get caught. We are supposed to be on a higher level than the rest of the nations.
What's wrong with this picture?

What are they not teaching enough about on chatan/kallah classes?
Why are hookers the "in" thing for frumies?

Why is it only the fumies (and not the modern or SY crowd) that are sitting in this class?

These are things to ponder?

 

Any modern or SY would be smart enough to remove their yarmulka

 

Anon 3:47, the article CLEARLY states that this class took place on TUES night. To Anon 10:09, what frummies are YOU talking about? There are 3 visibly Jewish men there. How many other unidentifiable Jews are there (no yarmulkes) at this class?
Problems like this go across the board. Any addiction can affect any person. The lack of self control by a Jew is the issue. On the other hand, these people are attending this class BECAUSE they obviously realize the mistake they made and hope not to repeat it.

 

FIRST OF ALL SHOULDNT THEY WEAR CAPS SO NO CHILULL HASHEM IS MADE. WHEN I GO I SIT WITH A CAP AND LUCKLY I SAT IN THE BACK SO IM NOT IN IT

 

The end of the article mentions how in some religions, people only get together to reproduce. That's an Essene view, not a Rabbinic view. Unfortunately, we live in a world in which ignorance, goyishe views on the husband-wife relationship, and excessive chumros which lead to kulos (check out the picture) predominate. There's a reason why Shir Hashirim is kodesh hakodoshim. You can't understand the nimshal if you don't understand the moshol.

 

Why is it only the fumies (and not the modern or SY crowd) that are sitting in this class?

Because they look exactly like the others (non jews)

 

What's "SY" crowd?

 

the non frummies are not paying, they are getting it for free, since so many female in their community act so.

 

What a shame!

The question that beggs being asked is, what is leading up to such incidents? why is this happening to us? what's wrong? who is to blame? (is it the internet? going to clubs? our culture? chinuch? rabbonim?)

 

I am a Brooklyn Judge vacationing in Florida. Some of you are very wrong.

You see the Chassidim because they dress in a way that can't quickly be disguised as a non Jew.

The modern, but shomer shabbos, Jews, are in my court much more frequently than the Chassidim. Only they can easily hide their yarmulkes.

I know, because when a person with a Jewish name is in front of me, I look carefully, and VERY frequently see the outline of his tallis katan under his shirt. Sometimes I can see the indentation from his yarmulke on his hair. Most goyim will not notice that. But I do.

I would say, that among the shomer shabbos jews who come before my court, only a very small percentage are chassidim.

 

Were they able to get a minyan for Maariv afterwards?

They probably told their clueless wives that they were in the Beis Medrish learning.

 

I recognize one yeedle from the mikva.

 

OY VEY!!!! THAT'S MY HUSBAND.

THANK YOU CHAPTZEM

 

Chas V'chalila that they were soliciting prostitues !
They were only looking for cleaning ladies for their homes so their wives could go to work while they sit on their tucheses in kolel doing nothing.

 

This story is obviously false. First of all it is illegal to take pictures at such meetings. Secondly, if one of those guys did it, don you honestly think they would come in their yarmulkes.

 

TO "Why are hookers the "in" thing for frumies?":

Gimme a break, these guys are a tiny minority!

 

because the modern are sleeping with their nexdoor neighbors wives. no need to pay.

 

anon 3:47- what part of "It's Tuesday evening..." did you not understand?

 

What does SY stand for?

 

SY is short for Syrian.

 

Hi.My name is John, and I'm greatly offended by this story.

 

What is meant by "modern"? Does it mean they use electricity, drive in cars, and believe the earth is round? Please explain.

 

I attended one of these clases after being locked up in brighton beach for soliciting. They actually let you off pretty easy. All you need to do is come down to this place and see some old prostitutes taslk about STD's. But when I went at least I wore a baseball cap!! Hey, who took the picture?

 

I work in Williamsburg (Natan Borlams). Years ago a neighborhood cop told us how he handled frum johns. He asked them what they were doing and they always answered they were waiting for the bus. He told them that was great news because the prostitutes had some bad disease, thank G-D they were not involved. He reported the johns always started to look green and really sick.

 

For goodness sakes... what do you mean the rabonnim should BAN it. TORAH bans it. That should be enough! If someone is going to solicit a person, undercover or not, for sex, then they should SHAVE the beard and payos, wear denim and a torn tee shirt, and no kippah. This way, there is no CHILLUL HASHEM FACTOR!!!
The rabonnim should ban it. How retarded...

 

I'm surprized that no one yet has expressed outrage at chaptzem for posting a story about sex. Looks like we are starting to mature a little bit

10:34 PM, do you have a sense of humer?

 

Everyone chill!!! I go to sex therapy and I am not the first or last jew with this addiction. But I am from the few jews who face my addiction and dont keep it in the closet. I am sure lots of people reading this post have the problem but are in denial like countless others. For some it takes getting arrested for others the Yad Hashem, and for others they die sex addicts. I only Daven that Hashem help those yiden suffering in silence to find help and maybe a support group.

 

Gentlemen:

When I said "This program was on last Friday night," I was referring to the ABC News television program "20/20" from which this segment was taken.

Personally, since I am not a lamed vav like so many of you, I Tivo'ed it.

 

I WORK AS ATTORNEY FOR A LARGE MEDIA OUTLET THESE PICTURES ARE FAKE !!!!!!
THER IS NO WAY THEY COULD REALESE THESE PHOTOS W/O WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM EVERY SNGLE PERSON IN THE PHOTO


THE PHOTO MAY BE REAL BUT ITS NOT IN THE SETTING THAT THE ARTICLE SUGGESTS


AL TADIN ES CHAVARCHA AD SHTAGIA LMKOMYO!!!!!!

 

Maybe they are fake Jews from Fakewood.

 

to john 3-26 557 pm
me too how do i get in touch with you

brooklyn ny

 

Was the hooker "frum" too?

 

I WORK AS ATTORNEY FOR A LARGE MEDIA OUTLET THESE PICTURES ARE FAKE !!!!!!
THER IS NO WAY THEY COULD REALESE THESE PHOTOS W/O WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM EVERY SNGLE PERSON IN THE PHOTO
-------------
An atorney who cannot spell.

 

the pics are not from a hooker class. why would the frimelech sit next to each other? any frum guy would wear a cap and if not would not go around introducing himself to other frimelech and then sit next to them.

 

I also record 20/20 and the reason they can show these pics is because the show was about prostitutes not about the individual people we see the backs of.
also, pics of arests need permission?

 

showing the backs of people is ok as no individual can be identified.

The yarmulkes should come off in a place that is shameful to religious jews and cannot be avoided such as this john school.

this is 100% halacha lemaaseh.

 

let's hope the hookers were female

 

Even better, that would be an "attorney" who doesn't know the law.

Let's see now. People photographed in a public space during a news event. Hmm. Right of privacy? I don't think so.

Hey, self-proclaimed attorney for a "media outlet," what's your theory of liabiity against ABC News?

Even better, who are the fools for whom you work who are willing to get a release from every person shown in a video?

Tipshus!

 

"An atorney who cannot spell."
you can't spell either.

 

Most of the comments above speak of "wearing a cap" so people can not tell one man from the other. It is so easy for the public to identify a yid in a cap. Peyot tucked under the cap, beard, black pants white shirt, tzizit peeking out of pants pocket.

I am Frum, go to movies.... I always see the yarlmulka come off and cap get put on. I can tell you that much of this action takes place in NYC or Montecello.I have seen Chasidic men go into places that are not appropriate. I have even seen some at the "giggle joints" of Montecello (or as they call it the "country")

Does wearing a cap make prostitution legit for us Jews?

 

INTERNET A BIG FACTOR

I know people who had to get the
computer out of the house, completely, in order to even begin
coming off that addiction. There are computer professionals who had to change their career because of such addiction. Kol Hakavod to them! Need a computer? Go to Kinkos, the libary, or any place where it's public.

 

I'm a ba'al teshuva who unfortunately has some experience in this area, and take it from me, many, many, chassidim frequent prostitutes on a regular basis. The problem is actually rampant. In a addition, I used to study German. Both of my German teachers had MANY stories of chassidim calling and offering large amounts of money for things that I will not mention. The problem in the chassidische community is deeper than you would ever expect.

 

at least they had seperate seating

 

Pics Real and legal??- After clicking on the link to the article on CBS,they too show pictures of the class. Doubtful that CBS would do it and risk getting sued, Id say-Legal! As far real, see the 2nd to last pic on CBS, its the same exact style chair-Id say real! Just IMHO

 

As long as they already got busted it's a kiddish hashem for the johns to go with their yarmulkes. Those goyim who see them will stop hating yidden (if they do). They'll say to themselves those Jews are regular people.

 

where is spitzer i was looking all over for him

 

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