Monday, May 05, 2008
Exclusive pictures of Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz at Masbia
Comments:
Markowitz is someone frumme Yidden should keep a distance from.
He has come out for immorality by openly endorsing maaseh Sodom like 'gay marriage' and has flown the 'gay' flag over Brooklyn borough hall. He does not deserve to get kovod like he is some big tzaddik. We don't want Brooklyn to become Sodom, chas vesholom.
And now there is even talk about him running for Mayor, Hashem yirachem. Maybe he should run for mayor of Sodom instead.
Stay away from this letz, even if he makes a sign on the road saying leaving Brooklyn oy vey. We don't need his letzonus or his support of toeivah.
He has come out for immorality by openly endorsing maaseh Sodom like 'gay marriage' and has flown the 'gay' flag over Brooklyn borough hall. He does not deserve to get kovod like he is some big tzaddik. We don't want Brooklyn to become Sodom, chas vesholom.
And now there is even talk about him running for Mayor, Hashem yirachem. Maybe he should run for mayor of Sodom instead.
Stay away from this letz, even if he makes a sign on the road saying leaving Brooklyn oy vey. We don't need his letzonus or his support of toeivah.
Anonymous : May 06, 2008 10:13 AM
Markowitz didn't say you should become gay or I should become gay, what he advocates is tolerance.
In today's political climate it will become increasingly rare for any politician who represents anything bigger than a neighborhood to take a different position.
Brooklyn is in no danger of becoming Sodom because of Marty any more than the entire City of New York will because Christine Quinn is speaker of the city council. And Quinn is gay, unline Markowitz who is married.
The question you should be asking is overall, is one politician good for the community or not?
Or would you like to see the entire city go to ruin by electing someone like Noach Dear? On that point, you can really say Chas V'Shalom.
Markowitz didn't say you should become gay or I should become gay, what he advocates is tolerance.
In today's political climate it will become increasingly rare for any politician who represents anything bigger than a neighborhood to take a different position.
Brooklyn is in no danger of becoming Sodom because of Marty any more than the entire City of New York will because Christine Quinn is speaker of the city council. And Quinn is gay, unline Markowitz who is married.
The question you should be asking is overall, is one politician good for the community or not?
Or would you like to see the entire city go to ruin by electing someone like Noach Dear? On that point, you can really say Chas V'Shalom.
what this community lacks is tolerance of others. we expect so much for ourselves and yet completely condemn anyone who is not exactly as we expect.
Hooray for Markowitz and any OTHER individual who sticks up - not particularly for gay people etc, but rather for anyone who is not exactly like them.
Hooray for Markowitz and any OTHER individual who sticks up - not particularly for gay people etc, but rather for anyone who is not exactly like them.
I would question the motives of those how see the issue of 'gay marriage' as separate of all TOAIVA. And since it is not our mission to fix the world from regular TOAIVA 'gay marriage' is also not a Frum issue
To Frum-Jews who stay far from the influence of the outside world - we don’t mingle in the parks, we don’t watch TV, and we build a bigger and bigger fence between us and foreign culture.
Those who compromise this fence between us and the outside culture, and listen all day to Traif-radio or watch TV etc; borrowed a false ‘scale’ from the Christian-right that measures different kinds of TOAIVA and create a level-system to say this TOAIVA is more outrageous than the other.
They are all out outrageous!
We should keep are Kdusha to ourselves and not try to fix the worlds TOAIVA.
To Frum-Jews who stay far from the influence of the outside world - we don’t mingle in the parks, we don’t watch TV, and we build a bigger and bigger fence between us and foreign culture.
Those who compromise this fence between us and the outside culture, and listen all day to Traif-radio or watch TV etc; borrowed a false ‘scale’ from the Christian-right that measures different kinds of TOAIVA and create a level-system to say this TOAIVA is more outrageous than the other.
They are all out outrageous!
We should keep are Kdusha to ourselves and not try to fix the worlds TOAIVA.
In response to the comments differing with me above -
Markowitz has gone far beyond advocating tolerance. Who told him to fly the toeivah flag above Brooklyn borough hall ? Did Queens do it? Staten island? That is not just 'tolerance', that is more like putting out a welcome mat for toeiva at Brooklyn HQ, and that is wrong. Same thing re 'gay marriage'. He went out on a limb, announcing publicly that he is supporting that, which is beyond the consensus among other politicians. So he is not just going for 'tolerance', he is actively welcoming the mushchosim, the toeivaniks. Chazal tell us about the danger of making official toeiva marriages. There are certain red lines and that is one of them.
Bottom line is that Markowitz is not someone that should be at a heimishe run soup kitchen or a matzo bakery getting smiles and all kinds of kovod from heimishe people. We don't want the matzo and the food to become muktze machmas mius.
Markowitz has gone far beyond advocating tolerance. Who told him to fly the toeivah flag above Brooklyn borough hall ? Did Queens do it? Staten island? That is not just 'tolerance', that is more like putting out a welcome mat for toeiva at Brooklyn HQ, and that is wrong. Same thing re 'gay marriage'. He went out on a limb, announcing publicly that he is supporting that, which is beyond the consensus among other politicians. So he is not just going for 'tolerance', he is actively welcoming the mushchosim, the toeivaniks. Chazal tell us about the danger of making official toeiva marriages. There are certain red lines and that is one of them.
Bottom line is that Markowitz is not someone that should be at a heimishe run soup kitchen or a matzo bakery getting smiles and all kinds of kovod from heimishe people. We don't want the matzo and the food to become muktze machmas mius.
Markowitz supported Jesse Jackson in 1988 when he was running for president. When Mayor Koch at the time said "if you're Jewish, you have to be crazy to vote for Jackson", then State Senator Markowitz stood side be side with Jackson and declared "I am Jewish and I support Jackson, and I'm not crazy!"
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