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"quaking in their boots"?

Isn't that just a bit hyperbolic? There's enough business for everyone!

 

Not quite ... this is an "upscale" pricey place, decidedly not Moisha's

 

im sure it'll be gr8 but will it be able to compete in the price?

 

Highly doubtful they will compete with Moisha's prices.

 

When people realize that the prices will be way higher than the other stores, Glatt Mart and Moishe's will be fine.

 

i will be shocked if they ever open

 

Pomegranate will be quaking in their boots when they watch everyone drive right by them on their way to Moishas and Glatt mart.
I can't see how in this economy people will spend even more $ on food.

 

The owner owns everfresh in graet neck. In great neck the maids go shopping and do not look at prices for food items. They just swipe the credit card or put it on the account. In brooklyn most people do the shopping themselves, they look at prices and I am sure that in the beggining it will be full just because of they want to see what its all about. Once people learn that they are expensive they will go back to where they use to shop. 13 million invested for whom?

It might of gone in the syrian community but not on Avenue L!

 

Those of us who shop at Moisha's know that the Syrians shop there because they look for the best price. Having money doesn't mean you spend it where. Pomegranate cannot compete with the quality of meat at Glatt Mart as no one can. The prices are good too. Good luck to everyone.

 

I dont understand the logic of investing millions in a property you dont own, in a buisness with slim profit margins

 

When are they opening?

 

If they have unique products that you won't find in Moishe's or Glatt Mart, then it'll go over. I for one am willing to pay a premium for the very best top of the line items.

 

Same logic that drives people to open restaurants despite an over 80% failure rate. Would be entrepreneurs would be well served spending a few dollars on a feasibility study before investing their life savings in a "good idea."

 

I wish them well.
'Quacking in their boots'
I don't think that Moisha's is quacking.The run a very good model.It's cheap AND well run AND far enough away from Pomegranate.
Glatt Mart could be in for some trouble.Firstly the store is not large enough, so there is a ease of shopping issue and lack of enough of variety in the non meat part.Parking is also tough.Pricing is on the higher end.The meat is great so that may hold them up.Remains to be seen.Unfortunate time to open a huge store in a slowing economy.Good wishes to all.For me its great because I'm literally around the corner from Glatt Mart and Pomegranate and have really missed their previous store because it was big and convenient

 

parnasa is given from shamayim not from having a bigger or smaller store...... if anyone thinks that if they build a huge amazing store and they will offer free merchamdise and sales, then not neccerialy will they make money........ hatzlacha raba to all amd all the best.... :)

 

I heard the shopping carts will have a sort of GPS on them that you punch in an item you are looking for and it will direct you to them. I can just picture homeless people stealing those shopping carts and cruising in style.

 

Those of us who shop at Moisha's know that the Syrians shop there because they look for the best price. Having money doesn't mean you spend it where. Pomegranate cannot compete with the quality of meat at Glatt Mart as no one can. The prices are good too. Good luck to everyone.

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : July 10, 2008 1:11 PM
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Thats because glat Mart sells Rubaskin, even though they claim not to.. Rubashkin will undercut anyone even if it means cutting corners in kashrus and in all other areas including sending customers and camps outdated and expired meat and chicken . Would u want your kids eating old expired chiken in camp? call the camps and find out who they use?? before its tooo late. I just heard that many many stores and restaurants are stopping to get any more deliveries from rubashkin untill they get thier act together , which i cant see happening in the very near future. What a shame that such a large company cant get thier act together.

 

Right off the bat Pomegranate is behind the 8 ball, having spent 2 long years and investing millions and at the end bringing an overpriced supermarket excuse mua
"Food Emporium" to this area will not serve them well at all Ave L, is not Great Neck, nor Lawrence,
and people are very cost conscious SO in this
weak economy and with food prices already having soared 30-50% on every day items opening the Flatbush version of Zabar's will not go over too well
once the uniqueness of this store will be experienced the customers will run back to their regular overpriced stores
not having to pay for GPS shopping carts
I wish them luck they will need it
at least this investment wasn't Bear Stearns backing or was it?

 

where is moishas of the great prices located?

 

what's the over/under on when they will go out of business?

Pesach 09

Succos 09

 

im giving 5-1 on pesach

 

Moishas is at 325 Ave M Bklyn which is the same owner as KRM Kollel Supermarket in Boro Park

 

Will they have a GPS locator for the mice & rodent droppings? Then it will be worth to pay more to go there

 

i guess most of you guys dont do the shopping,however it make zero sense that THE most affluent community(i base this on the amount of meshulachim come)in brooklyn has no respectable place to shop ,we must pesh and shove and walk as though were in a maze,or better yet a war zone,i thank the ribono shel olam for this store and even i must pay a few percent more ill gladly pay it and maybe the fewer parking tickets i recieve will make up the difference ,hatzlocha rabba rimonim

 

I WAS TOLD IT WILL BE OPENING AFTER TISHAH BAV .. I WISH THEM HATZLUCHU.
THEY WILL NEED COMPETITEVE PRICING TO SUCCSEED

 

the owners are probably all members of the vaad of flatbush. no big surprise....

did anyone know that the real owners of the new gourmet glatt in cedarhurst are many of the rabbonim that put the original owners out of business? did anyone know that the original owners were forced to sell to only vaad-approved people? did anyone know that the DEPT OF JUSTICE is currently investigating the vaad of the five towns? stay tuned for more "hypocrisy of Orthodoxy" or the the Kosher Nostra.

 

I was there today this morning and unbelievable how dozens of shoppers were filling up their baskets and checking out with a smile on their face..I believe its not what gossipers say, its what HASHEM wants..Lets all wish him Hatzloche Rabbe ..and try it to proove it by shopping there..

 

Well, call me crazy. I went there yesterday after work (Thursday 6:30) and I saw a store that was larger than the others in the area, but the aisles were stocked the usual kosher labels. I did pick up some Morningstar Farms Grillers, which the stores on Ave. J fail to carry; but I couldn't find good maple syrup (Grade B); good brands of vanilla (i.e. Neilson Massey), or authentic Parmasiana Reggianna cheese -- all of which I can find with a hechsher at my favorite store, Fairway in Redhook.

 

Finally! Was just there and it is wonderful! While there will always be a market for discounted economy level groceries, meats and produce, the are those, like myself, who welcome, at last, superior gourmet quality and are willing to pay for it. Other than the butcher counter at LaMarais in Manhattan, where else can one by giurmet quality prime aged beef? Do the other regularly visited supermarkets, such as Glatt Mart, Moishe's, etc., have first class produce, ala The Orchard, on Coney, or Chin's Blue Ribbon on M? The bottom line, is that there is a great need for an upscale kosher store and it is a pleasure to finally have one. One only has to hope that they remember their mission and do not let themselves lose sight of their intended high standards. Once they allow themselves to compete for bargains, the dream will be over. There is certainly a place for Glatt Mart, Moishe's etc. There is most certainly a place for Pomegranate. Regardless of the economy's ups and downs, it is a question of value. We all spend our money on the things we value and look for bargains in those areas n which we are willing to settle for less than the best. I, for one, value high qaulity food and a comfortable store that offers service.

 

Before one rushes to judgment, one should visit the store, walk the aisles and check out the selections. I did just that today. While I do not fault anyone who needs or wants to pursue a bargain, one does have to admit that shopping in a store with wide aisles, a slew of checkout counters, a meat selection with the quality and finesse of no other in Brooklyn, not to mention employees who are ready and willing to service the customer, is a novelty for the kosher consumer. There is definitely enough business for everyone and it is unfair to knock a business that is providing a service in a style much needed and wanted by many of us. I, who have shopped in Glatt Mart for years, have never seen 2 inch thick rib veal chops with frenched bones. I also have never seen a crown rib beef roast, a crown rib veal roast, etc., in the Glatt Mart meat cases. In fact, not too long ago, I requested a crown rib beef roast and was given a standing rib roast and told they couldn't crown it for me. Being as it is, it is fine. Every business decides what market it wants to reach. There is certainly enough of a variety of consumers to allow for a variety of business style. One only has to peruse the cooked food take-out counter at Pomegranite to see that they are providing items like no others. Pesto stuffed salmon rolls, indvidual phylo wrapped salmon strips, etc. Those who yearn for their likes will shop in Pomegranite. Those who are satisfied with the more Heimish oil and grease laden fair will continue to shop in Glatt Mart, etc. My friends and I, who travel from Manhattan to shop, welcome this amazing kosher emporium. I do have one question, though - While Glatt Mart, who has been in business for years, is limited by its space and its loud-mouthed manager, please explain why Moishe's, which I have only visited once, does not clean up its act and realize that the manner in which a business presents itself, is come-0n or turn-off for a customer.

 

I agree with the last commentator: One should not pass judgment on Pomegranate before visiting it. As a born-and-bred Midwood native who has lived out of town for the past 4 years since my marriage, and who has taken advantage of every visiting-the-parents trip to stock up on groceries at Moisha's, Paperific, Mountain Fruit, etc. (all of which are so much cheaper and better supplied than the kosher places where I now reside)....I positively *enjoyed* my first experience yesterday at this terrific new store. I didn't have time to explore the gourmet possibilities, just to pick up the specific items I needed, but what struck me immediately was how well lit, neat, and above all clean the place was...not to mention pleasing to the eye in terms of the wood-laminate floors, and pleasing to one's personal space in terms of the wide aisles. And the prices on the non-gourmet items I needed (cheese, cocoa, canned foods,paper goods) were very reasonable - by Brooklyn standards. In addition, I was looking for a particular product - sesame oil - which is currently unavailable with a hechsher where I live, and they had 4 or 5 different varieties.

All in all, I may have paid a few cents more than I might have in one of the other stores, but considering that everything I needed was available in one location (I didn't have to try more than one place for the sesame oil, for example) in this era of astronomical gas prices, I found the experience well worth it. I wish the owners much hatzlacha.

 

organic chulent.....yay!!! i give them a year for the excitement to wear off. after that, welcome to the real world. the dollar is king. we're not all such "demanding gourmands" here in flatbush. the market for that is quite small and nowhere near enough to sustain this behemoth.

 

i live in flatbush and have gone everywhere and beyond..i'm thoroughly impressed with this supermarket...as a mommy i need selection and ease as well as reasonable prices. Pom has that. Finally a store with class. I even saw`non-Jews there. We could all use a vacation

 

the store is over priced and the management didnt care for you or the community. for weeks the police have tried to get them to clear the streets of unlawfully and dangerously parked trailers,or how about the dangers of people crossing yellow lines to get in in a school zone. or even the unregistered and uninsured fork lift that swings in to traffic. NOTHING happened because someone in city govt maybe on the take$$$$ every effort has been hit with road blocks

 

Pomogranate as big as it is and as fancy as it is it all comes down to one thing $$$. Lets be real for a moment I saw rib steak for 38.99 a pound in their meat dept why in my right mind pay close to $40 a lbs for a rib steak and have to cook it myself. As for their deli Chulent their VIP as they call it $12 a lb for beans who are you kidding. As with all things just a passing fad but I'll keep the extra money in my pocket and they can keep the beans and their over priced meat.

 

So after my first visit to Pomegranate I excited with the selection and choices but was more amazed at what I was seeing being my first visit was on a Friday and needed some things ready made I walked over to the Deli where I witnessed first hand a complete mad house. A man yells out everything is now half price and normal shoppers turn into animals. People pushing yeling a little girl gets knocked down in the rush of half price deli the mother tries to get her daughter but is pushed back as people scrample to be next. I stand on the side lines as I notice managers from other deptments come to watch this side show laughing as jews push jews for the last of everything. Realizing this is not for me I quietly walked out of this store deciding not to ever return.

 

The nerve I went to Pomegranate to buy fox's U bet chocolate syrup realizing they do not carry it I walked out at which point returned to my car where I was meet by an attendant who said parking for customers only. I told him they did not have what I wanted but was told I needed to pay for parking or return to the store and buy something and he pointed at a sign saying customers only and demanded I pay $20.00 as I reached for my cell to call 911 the attendant agreed to release my keys to me. I will make it my business to tell everyone how I was treated in my syrian community. Mrs. Seyeb