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THE DECISION WAS NOT FOR ZALMEN. THE RULING WAS FOR NOBODY IN PARTICULAR.
ZALMEN AND HIS FOLLOWERS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HIS OLD FATHER WHO WAS QUITE SENILE AND MANIPULATED HIM THAT HE SHOULD BECOME THE HEIR TO THE MULTI BILLION DOLLAR DYNASTY IN BROOKLYN.
THE COURTS RULED THAT THEY CANNOT GET INVOLVED IN THIS DISPUTE. IN OTHER WORDS EVERBODY HAS WAS THEY HAD. NOTHING CHANNGED.
ITS A FACT THAT REB AARON IS A MUCH MORE LEARNED SCHOLOR. HIS FOLLOWERS SWEAR BY HIM. ON THE OTHER HAND, ZALMENS FOLLOWERS HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON, THEY WANT TO TAKE EVERYTHING FROM REB AARON AND ONLY WANT TO SEE HIM OUT. THEY HAVE SO MUCH HATE. IT IS A SHAME HOW THEY CURSE REB AARON.
IN ONE YEAR REB AARONS AND HIS PEOPLE BUILT A SCHOOL WITH OVER 4,000 CHILDREN. HE HAS NEW SUMMER CAMPS. NEW SHULS, A BRAND NEW SLAUGHTER HOUSE IN MONROE (THEY SLAUGHTER OVER 18,000 CHICKENS PER DAY. IT IS THE MOST SAUGHT AFTER KOSHER CHICKENS IN THE ORTHODOX COMUNITY).
WHAT DID ZALMEN AND HIS FOLLOWERS DO SINCE THE FIGHT? THEY FIRED ALL EMPLYEES, MELAMDEM TEACHERS WHO SIDED WITH AARON. THEIR SCHOOLS AND YESHIVAHS WERE DOWN TO ABOUT HALF OR LESS.
REB AARON AND HIS FOLLOWERS ARE BUILDING EVERYTHING FROM SCRATCH.

THE SHUL AND MAIN SCHOOLS KOLLEL AS WELL AS ALL PUBLIC BUILDINGS IN KIRYAS JOEL IN MONROE BELONG TO REB AARON AND HIS FOLLOWERS.

LEGALLY NOTHING CAN BE DONE. REB ZALMENS PEOPLE KNEW THAT. THAT IS WHY THEY REFUSED TO GO TO A DIN TORAH. AND THAT IS WHY REB AARONS PEOPLE HAD TO GO TO COURT.
THERE IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN WILLIAMSBURG ON BEDFORD AVENUE THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO BECOME THE NEW SHUL. ALL REB AARONS FATHERS FOLLOWERS WHO ARE REB AARON FOLLOWERS, OLD AND YOUNG, POOR AND RICH GAVE THUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR SEATS IN THIS SHUL (NOW ALL THE MONEY (MILLIONS) IS IN ZALMENS HANDS AND THEY WILL NOT REFUND IT.
THIS IS LIKE STEALING.
I COULD PROBABLY WRITE PAGES OF THE TERROR THE WILLIAMSBURGERS ON AARONS SIDE WERE SUBJECTED TO. EVEN THE CHILDREN WERE PICKED AT.
WHAT A SHAME!!!

 

When they told the previous klausenburger rebbe that satmar was fighting with some other chasidus he said "a bie nisht tzvishen yiden" I think we could apply it here too no matter what is happening the bottom line is they should worry more about kovod shomaim then kovod beis satmar or kovod beis ABA

 

Satmar has sunken to an all-time new low

 

REB ZALMEN FOLLOWERS HATED HIS FATHER REB MOISHE, THE BEIRECH MOISHE. IN FACT THEIR YESHIVAH WAS SUPPOSE TO BE NAMED YESHIVAH BEIRACH MOISHE AND THE BOYS TORE DOWN THE SIGN. HE HAD TO CHANGE THE YESHIVAHS NAME.
WHAT KIND OF A RABBI EMBRACES HIS FATHERS ENEMIES? WHAT KIND OF A MAN DOES NOT ALLOW HIS BROTHER TO SEE HIS PARENTS.
DO YOU RELIZE THAT REB AARON WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SEE HIS FATHER THE LAST 6 YEARS OF HIS LIFE? DO YOU KNOW THAT ZALMEN HELD HIS FATHER HOSTAGE ALL THE YEARS AND MANIPULATED THE OLD MAN ACCORDING TO HIS LIKING?
WHEN REB MOISHES FIRST GREAT GRANDCHILD GOT MARRIED AND THE CHUPAH WAS ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM HIS HOUSE, THE OLD MAN WAS PUT TO SLEEP. ALL OF WILLIAMSBURG AND MONROE PEOPLE CAME TO THE WEDDING EXCEPT FOR THE GREAT GRANDPARENTS.
ANYTIME REB AARONS FAMILY WENT TO INVITE HIM TO A WEDDING OR BAR MITZVAH SAID HE WILL ATTEND. BUT WHEN THE TIME CAME HIS CONDITION MADE HIM FORGET AND ZALMEN PUT HIM TO SLEEP AND DID NOT LET HIM ATTEND.
PROBABLY SOMEONE WILL WRITE A BOOK ABOUT THE AWFUL THING ZALMEN DID TO SATMAR.
ITS A FACT THAT REB AARON HAS 80% OF THE YOUNG GENERATION ON HIS SIDE.
ITS A SHAME THAT SATMAR WITH ALL THE CHESED BIKUR CHOLIM CHARITY HACHNOSOS ORCHIM AND TORAH LEARNING, SHOULD BE SPOILED BY THIS FIGHT.

 

al d'ateift atfucho....
Because you killed, now they killed you....
For all the shfichas domim of anyone who disagreed with Satmar. The abuse, curses, vile hate, against shomrei Torah u'mitzvohs, who happen not to agree with their Rebbe, - now they get to feel what it felt like then.
Its not pretty now. And it wasn't pretty then. It's a chillul Hashem now. So it was when they were on the puring end. Reminds one of the 'Kozak hanigzal'.

 

I like the old williamsburger's comment...somewhat. On the one hand I agree with him in general terms. On the other hand, it IS sad eich naflu giboirim. A mul there was something wonderful about Satmar, albeit occasionally dangerous, but more often wonderful and varm.

Anyway, so far as this current bullshit is concerned, I just wanted to say that I support R' Zalmen. No, I never met him and I know nothing about him but I DID meet Aharon, and that's more than enough for me to be able to say b'peh mulei that I support his brother, or indeed ANYBODY who might be in conflict with that kiryas yoel individual.

I should also note however that Aaron's family appear to be nothing like him. His son seemed to be a finer mentch, his daughter-in-law is not only nice and normal but even intelligent, learned, anti-machloikes and non-superstitious (more MO than chassidische really) and his granddaughter... nu, what can one say about a satmereh granddaughter? But, to reiterate, the "rebbe" himself had no problem cheating a fellow yid, attempting to be mevayish him b'rabim and being matriach him for no reason - and I only had the pleasure of being in this tzaddik's presence for a few hours.

Kul Tiv,

mnuez

 

How are things now for the Satmar Chasidim both in New York and in Monroe? Are people killing each other over this topic? Is there real blood?