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Sunday, June 04, 2006

Gerer Mesivta closes down its dormitory

Due to 'certain' problems with its Bocherim, the Gerer Mesivta in Boro-Park has closed down its dormitory. The Yeshivah Bocherim now have to find a place to sleep on their own every night. The closing of the dorm comes after allegations were made of hanky panky going on between Bocherim of the Yeshivah and only a little while after the Rosh Yeshivah, HaRav Leizerowitz, was sent away from the Yeshivah and was forced to go to Israel for allegedly molesting many Bocherim.

Comments:
The dormitory is not closed.

Rabbi Leizrowitz is still in the Yeshiva, and will be there untill after the summer.

Please check your facts before you post.

 

Why don't u just say it the way it is? Leizerowitz preyed on the week and shy and perpetrated horrible acts of sexual abuse for self gratification. From getting off while hugging and caressing his 13-17 year old charges to long runing relationships with current and graduated talmidim where he coerced them to give him blowjobs. Instead of imparting on them the gerrer value of male virginity, of which he spoke about so eloquently in public, he ordained them with his anointing oils Hashem Yerachaim.
The disgusting coverup perpetrated on behalf of 1 who is Chayev Meesa is more vile than the acts alone.

 

OK we checked our facts. A breif phone call to the yeshiva public phone confirmed 3 new guys came to replace AML. Deny it and we will start naming name if that will help u with your facts. And if the dorm is closed than why are the boys staying at private homes including some by R'P.?

The dorm is not closed...only empty of those who dorm there.

U are so ignorant of the facts u rightfuly are unaware what was going on there Mr. Comment.

 

I personally saw a divorced "rosh yeshiva" in ger --walking into his house at 10.40pm with a bochur approximately barmitzva age --and when asked was told this was perfectly appropriate --well judging by this story --in ger it probably is.....

 

This is so pathetic...

Rabbi AML is being replaced by Reb Paluch and Reb Estterzon. His departure has been spoken about for years now.

He is currently in Israel after doing a shidduch with his son (probably a conspiracy of the rabonnim to keep him in Israel...). He is scheduled to return this week.

These so called molestation charges are sickening and mostly half truths and exaggerations (None have ever been substantiated or he'd been sacked long ago)

The dormitory has been closed because of the lack of a Mashgiach who is willing to take responsibility. Instead of calling the public telephone, why don’t you call Reb Yossef Paluch yourself?????

I wonder if the wahoos posting this bullsh_t realize what they are getting themselves into.


"ORRUR MACKKE REHEIU BESEISER"

 

"I personally saw a divorced "rosh yeshiva" in ger --walking into his house at 10.40pm with a bochur approximately barmitzva age --and when asked was told this was perfectly appropriate --well judging by this story --in ger it probably is....."

Here we go...
Ever wonder where all the rumors start???
Makes one wonder what lies behind all the rest of the crap that's written here.

 

I, for one, am sick of all this shmutz. It is all speculation until it is proven. And I for one feel that there has been enough speculation, without proof, on this topic.

This "shmutz" going around MAY just be rumors and that as long as they are rumors should be kept strictly out of the realm of speculation:

If anyone dares to promote that opinion, they are quickly "wished" that they too suffer as a victim of abuse/harrassment.

To all of you, I say:
Consider this. As easy as it may be to take "advantage" of a young, innocent student....it is just as easy to be pointed to as an abuser/sexual harrasser.

Don't be so quick to "wish" anything on others, or you may be the recipient of "wishes" that you be the victim of being accused falsely of sexual abuse/harrassment. It is far easier to point the finger, than to prove your innocence and that the pointer is just out to get you.

 

Really, so let me ask you a question --if you are so sure then perhaps we will start namig some names. Obviously you are a gerer chossid and are trying to protect your cult at any cost. This is ofcourse the same cult that regulates the amount of sex frum couple can have a month -- and you know what the Chazzon Ish's letter says concerning those takkonos --or any number of other bizzre hanhogos which yr cult practices.

So perhaps you wantr a bit more info on Abromoqich now????

 

you should reaaly consider seeing a doctor or a specialist. They probably threw you out of that yeshivah, so for NEKOMO you are posting false accusations. Are you not afraid of the YOM HADIN ?

 

No, the specialist is for you gerrers who need to go to a shrink to find out whether the reason you play with little boys is b/c of the fact that the rebbe does not allow you to fullfill your mitzva of ona more than twice a month or whether you were just born deviant

 

OK I learnt by Leizerowizh and by Abromowich all my teen years and I can tell you there were never any problems with any of them. Believe me I would know and I also did a bit of asking around and came up with nothing. It's a terrible lie and horrible etc etc of the person who started this rumour.

This is a real case of "arur maaceh raehei beseter".

 

This is my first & last comment.

The accuser has some serious issues that need some professional attention. The sooner the better.

The twisted, oh-so-righteous outrage, is probably a mask for some damage that was done to him as a child. He's prone to lash out against authority-figures & can't be bothered by mere facts.

When confronted with inconsistencies, he lashes out with ever more venom.

because he's so sick my comment will almost certainly not cause the accuser to pause. But readers who are swayed by his poison may just stop & think.

 

I ask of the blog administrator to take this post down immediately. It is a total lie as there is no one who says it happened to him and wants to testify etc.
There are legal steps people can take against and even sue you for these baseless accusations. I always thought this blog is at least 90% accurate, now I see it's totally lies slanders etc etc. Please be a mensch take it down ASAP and apologize for this "fast".

 

I agree with the above

This whole thing is nothing but Speculation.

This Abromwitz Leizrowitz bashing, is the dream of a disgruntled Gerer talmid who obviously had some issues with his mechanchim.

Just the fact alone that nobody but one yokel came out with this information is proof that this is some personal issues that the accuser has with the above mechanchim.

I'm pretty damn sure I know who this info is coming from. His last name starts with an E and he was kicked out of Yeshivah by Abramowitz. (His relationship with Leizrowits wasn’t too great either)

Yes, I am a Gerrer and I know what goes on in Ger.

This is crap in the first degree. Pure fabrication.

 

I ALSO THINK THAT THESE COMMENTS ARE NOT TRUE AND WHO EVER WROTE THIS HAD ISSUES WITH HIM THAT HE IS GIVING OUT REVENGE KNOW BEFORE HE LEAVES. HE IS A GREAT MASHGIACH AND HE WILL BE A LOSS FOR US. ONE THINK I COULD SAY THAT WHO EVER STARTED UP WITH HIM IN THE PASSED TO BAD MOUTH THE MASGIACH ENDED UP WITH NO GOOD THINGS. DONT FORGET HE IS A SHLIACH FROM THE LEV SIMCHAH WHO SEND HIM HIM TO AMERICA AND WHEN YOU START WITH HIM IT'S LIKE YOU ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE WITH GEDOLEH HADOR, SO BE CLEVER AND DONT TALK.

 

I think the Chofetz Chaim would be rolling in his grave from the loshon hora going on in this site.
Everybody should just stop judging people and spreading baselees theories and facts about anyone else.
Do yourselves a serious favor:read the daily chofetz chaim halachos.Do you want life.I certainly do.

 

To all you know-it-alls: If you are so sure that the poster's name starts with an E and is a disgruntled talmud, then y the hell am I also accusing ger for covering up the sexual abuse/sodomy that I was subjected to by gerrer mechanchem/mamzerim and I NEVER mentioned a single complaining word for sheer shame and fear? And to prove that the toothless arguments posted above by other posters have no merits I will counter with this: U all claim to have spent the entire teenage years by these gay f--kers and the fact u never heard of the dozen or so victims are proof it never happened. If I were to defend a murderer in court by bringing witnessess that saw him 90% of his lifetime and did not see him murder anyone, would that convince judge or jury that he could not have murdered during the other 10% of the time?

This is my first post and I plan never to post again. I have made my statement & am thoroughly convinced that Ger and other Chareidim communities will NEVER get it right. Anything they will ever do will be as a direct result of threats and pressure by victims and advocacy groups or perhaps lawyers. They have no intention of doing anything to remedy this issue and some of us victims KNOW WHY! That is why we don't ever dare discuss this issue. We will go to the grave in permanent emotional pain & we only pray that those involved in these heinous acts and those that enabled them or covered for them die of colorectal or prostate cancer & all offspring meet the fate we have suffered at the hands of trusted elders. Thanx to the higher ups this problem will never EVER go away in Ger. Although some have been outed, the rabbonim in Ger know of other perverts in positions of Chinuch and will not attack this issue until UOJ or others threaten to publicize it. To hell with you all. Live it up fakers, G-d will catch u at the end run. U can't tell Him u didn't know how to deal with it or if it was true. Ever heard of what they did to a BEN SORRER IMORRER just to err on the side of caution? When u wag away on Yom Kippur know that I wont forgive EVER and G-d will avenge the downtrodden!

Don't let any of this bother u, cell phone M'Issur is more important.

 

Growing up I learned in Ger (I'm not a ger chosid, nor do I have any affiliation with them whatsoever. Back then it was common for many non ger "heimish" kids to learn there). Ask anyone that went there, and they will immediatley tell you storied about "MoJo" (you ger'res out there know who I'm talking about) and his crazy talks he would have with us privatley.

I'm talking from my personal experiences, do with it what you want. He called me into his office at the age of 11. He then asked me if I ever saw another boys mila and if I ever took a bath with my sister. I'm not making this stuff up, you can ask anyone that learned in Yagdil Torah through the late 80's and 90's and you'll see that I'm far from the only victim.

My point? I don't know if these accusations are true, but if there's one chassidis I would imagine these kind of stories are true, it would be ger. They are sick and twisted.

This is all they preach and have nothing else on their mind. When I moved on to high school (not to ger anymore of course) Reb Eleh Fisher came to speak one Friday afternoon as a guest speaker. This was in a yeshiva that was almost hemish/chassidish but he was expected to talk on the parsha, and possible touch on some mussar. Well, what do you think the perv spoke about?? "Men toor nish kiken oif nuch a bucher in trachten es ehr is a sheine mentch". Again, this is all true, I'm not making this up.

To conclude, this story here about the dorm, I have no proof one way or another. BUT, they are FAR FAR from innocent.

 

pack of lies just a pack of lies

 

all of the above is a bunch of lies i am a talmid of the mesivta who got thrown out a couple of years ago i knew everything that went on i was up every night in the dorm and can gaurntee you that AML never did anything of the sort. its all just baseless rumors i know who did the posting and i spoke to him myself he admited to me that the stories and rumors were all exagerated by a lot but hes just after revenge.
I didnt want to come forth with this but i knew exactly what went on in the office through the same surveilance cameras that the yeshivah put in i hacked into them and i saw everthing that went on in there. if anyone can beat that then let him come forward and say it. BTW i am not a gerer just someone who reluctantly respects AML and i even though we never got along i am jewish today because of him. So Long!!!!

 

I am also a talmid of mojo and AML. How come he didn't ask me any questions,. About AML when i was learning in mesivta (more than ten years ago) a letter was spread around in the nail saying all kinds of stories about AML in the end we found out that it was a boy that didn't get on well with him spread these lies with his mothers help.
AML is a great man and is a wonderful masgiach!!!

 

Loser, why did the rabbonim in Ger refuse to come to the defense of AML when L----- distributed those leaflets years ago? And why wont the Gerrorist Rabbonim vouch for his innocence today? Why did they refuse to endorse the Seudos Preida or even commit to going to it on 7-11-06????????? Why why why?

 

After speaking with numerous Parents, students, and mechanchim in the Gerrer Mesifta, there is no question that this is a baseless falsehood! It is a shame that a wonderful person had to literally run away due to the threat of one emotionally unstable and dysfunctional mother/child. (Yes, I checked this out also.) Nobody in the school believes the allegations against Rabbi AM Leizerowitz. But isn't it a mitzvah to bash chasidim in general and Ger in particular

 

IT IS TRUE HaRav Leizerowitz, was sent away from the Yeshivah and was forced to go to Israel for allegedly molesting many Bocherim THIS WHY HE IS NOT IN ANY YESHIVE NOW,

 

LEIZEROWITZ MOLESTED HUNDREDS OF BOYS. RAN AWAY FOR FEAR OF BEING JAILED. MAY HE ROT IN HELL........AND MAY ALL THOSE IN CHARGE WHO KNEW ABOUT IT FOR YEARS AND DID NOTHING ....GO TO GEHENOM TOO. THERE IS NOTHING WORSE THAN THIS TUMAH......THANK GOODNESS HE LEFT NY

 

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