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this is a total lie! His family never lived in Israel and he never served in the army!

Get your facts straight!

 

This biography of the shevach owner is 100% fiction!

 

It is very interesting that the same person who (allegedly) selfishly and greedily caused yidden to eat traife, could be the same person who would put his own life at risk to protect yidden by joining the Israeli army. It means that people have both good and bad in them.

I have emunoh that hakodosh boruch hu gives reward and punishment. And each individual gets both reward for their mitzvos and punishment for their aveiros. Someone who cheats by selling traif meat as kosher will be punished, and someone who shows the mesiras nefesh to go against their family and community to join with the chayalim who protect the Jewish people from danger will get rewarded in olam habo.

 

it as all part of the zionist plot to uproot yiddishkite

 

I have no problem if you would like to write total bul-shi*, but kindly tell everyone that it's your own stupid fantasy's.

Grow up.

 

I know the family and it is not true!!

 

It is time that we all come to terms with the pressure-cooker we all live in. How are we supposed to stay ehrlich and support a few generations at the same time (ourselves, children and grandchildren)? Until we bury the "kollel situation", where Litvishe people are coerced into undertaking mega-years of support, trust me, him and many others will continue having to resort to "treifene zachen" like this and others. When we teach our children in school, that unless we support a ben- Torah for a husband, we are not living a Torahdik life and not correctly planting the seeds for a torahdik family, we will continue to force those that can't marry off and support their children honestly, to do it dishonestly.

Are the offspring of those that sat in jail less or more likely to get married, if the parents can come up with the obligatory cash? Look around you for the answer. Sad as it may be, see how many top Brisker boys have married girls whose fathers sat in jail and you will have your answer.

Those that cause Chilul Hashem in other sectors- outside of Kashrus- are defaming and defiling as well. Only Hashem can judge which is more or less heinous.

Those in the Chinuch field that encourage one lifestyle as the only right one for all, are causing many such situations with dire consequences in homes all around, such as parents dissatisfaction with children and children's dissatisfaction with parents and people's dissatisfaction with themselves and Hashem.

Those that promote this expensive situation that is only doable for the ultra rich or ultra simple, must realize the consequences of their actions.

May those that have the power to influence, see the light of the cause of this tragic situation that is effecting us all around.

 

Forgive me, my word "bury" in the previous post was too harsh- I only want to suggest that we ought to redesign the Kollel system to allow it to be more doable. To lessen treifus of all kinds, we must address the many problems it causes.

 

THIS POST;
It is time that we all come to terms with the pressure-cooker we all live in.....
HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!
IT SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT PAGE OF HAMODIA,YATED ECT...
ALSO PRINTED AND POSTED IN ALL SHULS

BUT I DOUBT IT WOULD HELP THE YESHIVA WORLD HAS THEIR HEAD SO FAR IN THE SAND THEY COULDN'T SEE OR HEAR AN EARTHQUAKE, TORNADO ECT.

JUST HAD TO SAY THANKS TO THE POSTER

 

As long as we are living in the above named "pressure cooker" of Kollel support- with the best boys going to the highest bidder- there will always be desperate people who are forced into doing all kinds of shtick to be able to afford the bidding. Let's wake up from our deep slumber.

It has to start with what the kids are taught in school.

If we insist that the message should get communicated in the papers - it will. Then the people who can influence a change, will!

 

For all those complaining about the pressure cooker of supporting kollel, are you saying that the first 20 years of raising children weren't a pressure cooker.

This concept is bologne, and life is a pressure. Deal with it, and stop looking for always a way to blame others!!

When you dressed your kids in the finest clothing, and leased the latest Lexus, did you feel the pressure?? When you bought that luxury home and obligated yourself a 6000/month mortgage, did you feel the pressure?? When you bought that summer home did you feel the pressure??

The only reason why people feel the pressure from supporting kids in kollel is because there are no gov't programs for that, and you can't get away with not paying the bills, like they do to all their other bills.

How many so called 'Ashirim' don't pay suppliers, don't pay their pledges to tzedakah, etc. etc.

No body can be forced to do anything!! There are many families not supporting and are doing nice shidduchim!!

 

To:
For all those complaining about the pressure cooker of supporting kollel, are you saying that the first 20 years of raising children weren't a pressure cooker.
This concept is bologne, and life is a pressure. Deal with it, and stop looking for always a way to blame others!!
When you dressed your kids in the finest clothing, and leased the latest Lexus, did you feel the pressure?? When you bought that luxury home and obligated yourself a 6000/month mortgage, did you feel the pressure?? When you bought that summer home did you feel the pressure??



The only reason why people feel the pressure from supporting kids in kollel is because there are no gov't programs for that, and you can't get away with not paying the bills, like they do to all their other bills.

How many so called 'Ashirim' don't pay suppliers, don't pay their pledges to tzedakah, etc. etc.

No body can be forced to do anything!! There are many families not supporting and are doing nice shidduchim!!

MY RESPONSE-
YOU ARE 100% RIGHT ABOUT THE ASHIRIM THAT COMPLAIN- BUT

#1 - YOU SAY LIVE WITH THE PRESSURE- THERE ARE MANY OUT THERE THAT CAN BARELY PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE- WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THEM-

DON'T EAT????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

#2-MANY DAUGHTERS DEMAND IT AND REFUSE TO GET MARRIED OTHERWISE , BECAUSE THEY'RE TOLD IN SCHOOL IT'S THE ONLY RIGHT WAY. THEY'RE ASHAMED. THIS CAUSES BIG MACHLOKES IN MANY FAMILIES. PROVE TO ME THAT THE LEARNING BOYS ARE FINER AND BIGGER BAALEI MIDOS THAN THE WORKING BOYS. HALEVEI!

 

THIS WHOLE TREIFA THING IS A ZIONIST PLOT.. iTS THE ZIYONIM TOGETHER WITH SHEVACH THATS PLOTTING HERE AGAINST ALL OF US

 

I agree its all a zionist conspiracy

 

To Anonymous - 3:13

You are right !! However, don't expect anything to change. Things will get only worse. When one hole gets plugged up another one will open very soon.

Our community is being drained financially and morally.

To all those roshei yeshivas from monsey and elsewhere who told their talmidim that a father-in-law (no matter how poor he is) must support them for 10 years ; I have one question for all of you ??

How did you enjoy eating Grade A neveilos and treifos for 9 years ??

 

Finkel has a brother in law who lives in williamsburg his name is Shmiel David Ganz years ago he had a lamb Farm in Lakewood NJ and was forced to close it when he was caught selling treifa meats for yidden so it all runs in the family

 

I just heard from Moshe erenfeld from williamsburg he is a brother in law of finkel,,the wifes are sisters,,that finkel said that he used to shect it himself and what they found was the rejects

 

moshe erenfeld from williamsburg also said that he vouches for his brother in law finkel that he just sold neiveilos maximum for six months only

 

How many kids was MF supporting?How can the average person afford support and stay honest?

It's a clear domino effect - dire need causing greed causing Chilul Hashem causing Onesh.

K'vod Shomayim is on hold.

Roshei Yeshiva have to act on this.

 

rohse yeshiva and rabonim dont want to open up new communities in more affordable areas because they will loose thier support base, dont you get it? we are being pushed to live and pay exhuberent real estate prices because of these rabonim

 

call these rabonim RA_bonim,,,,,RA translates to BAD

 

We must do something before we all kill ourselves. Rabbonim/Roshei Yeshiva have to explain how to support without getting corrupt. If they can't come up with a way, then they must rethink the issue.

 

hey chaptzem your supposed to be the best heimeshe blogger how about posting a picture of mr. moshe shevach finkel on your site. come on i am sure you could get ahold of one
thanks

 

Does living under pressure and supporting your children justify selling neveilos and treifos???????????

 

To Anonymous 8:29
Living under pressure and supporting children DEFINITELY DOES NOT justify selling neveilos and treifos!

BUT IT SURE LEADS TO IT.

MAYBE IT'S TIME TO CHECK THE HEARTS AND BRAINS OF THOSE WHO ARE SITTING SILENTLY WHILE WE KILL OURSELVES WITH SUPPORT ISSUES, INSTEAD OF ONLY CHECKING THE CHICKEN AND BEEF BODY PARTS!

 

STOP HIDING THE FACTS!

FACT: This is a much bigger thing then you are all making it out to be. It can't just be him. It's Jewish Mafia and its bigger than just MONSEY. I doubt we'll ever get to the truth.

FACT: He did not act alone yet we are not told who else was caught up in this chicken matter.

FACT: He must be given the right to tell his story in full and be heard out. However, since the rabbonim rushed to deem him without nemonos this will hurt our (lay peoples) chances of knowing what really happend.

 

I think we can correctly assume that MF is either insane and was unaware of what he was doing and the possible consequences for himself and others, OR he is an atheist living a lie, thinking that there's no G-d and what does he have to lose? He revealed his true colors. It's either one. He either didn't know what he was doing or didn't care.

 

HOW CAN ANYONE COMPARE ANY BUISINESS DEALINGS OR ANY OTHER G'NEVOS WITH GIVING PEOPLE TREIF MEAT TO EAT? FINKEL WAS NICHSHEL THOUNSANDS OF FRUM PEOPLE WITH EATING TREIF. I ALSO DO NOT THINK SUPPORTING CHILDREN MAKES PEOPLE STEAL OR HANDEL NOT EHRLECH. A GANEV WILL GANVEH NO MATTER WHAT!!! FINKEL DID NOT LIVE A RICH LIFESTYLE AND HE MUST HAVE EARNED MILLIONS. HE JUST GOT A KICK OUT OF SEEING ALL RABUNIM AND CHUSEVEH YIDEN EAT TREIF. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT HE DID WITH ALL THE MONEY....IT PROBABLY IS NOT KOSHER...

 

Attention:
Anonymous on 09/12 at 12:27 a.m.:
Shmiel David Ganz is my uncle, so I should know whether or not he has a brother-in-law named Moshe Finkel. HE DOES NOT! I assume from your other vicious lies about him that this is not an innocent mistake. Just as you are lying about the relationship between the two, so too are you lying through your other statements about my uncle.

 

STOP HIDING THE FACTS!

FACT: This is a much bigger thing then you are all making it out to be. It can't just be him. It's Jewish Mafia and its bigger than just MONSEY. I doubt we'll ever get to the truth.

The Non Jewish Organizations Rather Have Glatt Kosher Bigger Profit Margins maybe blame the m#$%^& Jewish Mobsters Who give Lots of Tzedukah Because they want to look like tzadikim.

FACT: He did not act alone yet we are not told who else was caught up in this chicken matter.

FACT: He must be given the right to tell his story in full and be heard out. However, since the rabbonim rushed to deem him without nemonos this will hurt our (lay peoples) chances of knowing what really happend.