Wednesday, January 24, 2007
The new Israeli school tznius rules and what they mean for us
Just a little while ago the new school tznius rules were instituted by Rabbonim in Israel for Israeli high school girls to follow. According to the new guidelines girls must now wear shirts that, although tucked into their skirts, reach close to their knees. Only shirts with collars are allowed to be worn. Also, a new type of special chareidi underwear with snaps (don't even ask) is being sold for high school girls to wear in order to be 'fully tzniusdik'. According to Israeli news sources, burqas are soon arriving for the next school year.
Anyway, where is this coming from?
Where will this churban hit next?
Are the frum Israeli high school girls that bad that all these rules are needed? And if they are, will they even help?
Further, who is coming up with all these rules?
Will the Rabbonim who came up with these sodomite rules be wearing these snap underwear too? Or do they only have this sadistic enjoyment from making others wear them?
These new guidelines make you wonder who has the problem and who is the cause for this, is it the girls who never did anything wrong and have always been tzniusdik, or is it the men who do nothing all day besides roam the streets thinking up such rules that need to practice some impulse control?
Just a little while ago the new school tznius rules were instituted by Rabbonim in Israel for Israeli high school girls to follow. According to the new guidelines girls must now wear shirts that, although tucked into their skirts, reach close to their knees. Only shirts with collars are allowed to be worn. Also, a new type of special chareidi underwear with snaps (don't even ask) is being sold for high school girls to wear in order to be 'fully tzniusdik'. According to Israeli news sources, burqas are soon arriving for the next school year.
Anyway, where is this coming from?
Where will this churban hit next?
Are the frum Israeli high school girls that bad that all these rules are needed? And if they are, will they even help?
Further, who is coming up with all these rules?
Will the Rabbonim who came up with these sodomite rules be wearing these snap underwear too? Or do they only have this sadistic enjoyment from making others wear them?
These new guidelines make you wonder who has the problem and who is the cause for this, is it the girls who never did anything wrong and have always been tzniusdik, or is it the men who do nothing all day besides roam the streets thinking up such rules that need to practice some impulse control?
Comments:
As usual, some more inaccurate reporting by Mr. Chaptzam.
Where did you get this B.S. story from?
Probably some delusional pathetic sick twisted reader of yours who actually has a fetish for underwear with snaps.
Go read the Takanaos you imbecile, before attacking Gedolei Yisroel.
The Takanos which were in fact made were done for good reason.
The Israeli girls are not innocent like you write.
They are notorious sluts.
Take a walk through Bnei Brak on Rechov Rabbi Akiva and you will think that you are in Manhattan.
It's disgusting.....as is Meah Shearim.
AND, should you choose not to like the Taakanos which were instituted (which you obviously have NO clue what they are), you can remove your girls from all of the participating Yeshivos (97% of them) and send your girls to a Mizrachi School - and watch how far you will get.
EAT IT.
Where did you get this B.S. story from?
Probably some delusional pathetic sick twisted reader of yours who actually has a fetish for underwear with snaps.
Go read the Takanaos you imbecile, before attacking Gedolei Yisroel.
The Takanos which were in fact made were done for good reason.
The Israeli girls are not innocent like you write.
They are notorious sluts.
Take a walk through Bnei Brak on Rechov Rabbi Akiva and you will think that you are in Manhattan.
It's disgusting.....as is Meah Shearim.
AND, should you choose not to like the Taakanos which were instituted (which you obviously have NO clue what they are), you can remove your girls from all of the participating Yeshivos (97% of them) and send your girls to a Mizrachi School - and watch how far you will get.
EAT IT.
Anonymous at 9:29, I'm not surprised of your opinion of high school girls given your crude and rude response. Grow up, and get your eyes off the high school girls. They're kids, you pervert.
As usual, we see the terrible Takonos and the Terrible things that these so called Rabbonim and Vaad Hatznios are doing..I know them very well from the years that I learnt in the Yeshivos there, these are a bunch of losers and molesters that are doing this..I know that these guys are the biggest Leidegeires that there is and they want to make themselves Frum so they come up with these stupid things again and again.They want you to think that they mean Kovod Shomayim, well they do not, they have nothing else what to do and they are the ones that are in the streets all day and look at the women how they are dressed and when they are finished they go to the Mikvas to have fun with the guys there, I know them they are a bunch of Lo-Lifes...First it was the Sheitlich which everybody knows by now that it was a complete farce, theN they came up that women should not go to school to learn a trade.etc., etc..They will be here next week to collect from you your hard earned money those Leidegeires..Once and for all we should expose to the world what kind of people they are..
To Chaptzem..Thank you very much for this post and keep up your good work..
To Chaptzem..Thank you very much for this post and keep up your good work..
If this takkana reaches my girls s\chool in yerushalayim . i am telling that i will promptly remove them to a mizrachi school if if i have no choice. The way i see things right now with all these takkanos more bad than good wil come out with them
being that these girls are so called "sluts" are you saying that something is very wrong with our system of chinuch? and if so will these superficial tekunos really help? or g-d forbid backfire on us?are we trying to use a band aid to cover up and to avoid dealing with whats really happening?
Chaptzem,
Burkas?? What are we moslims chas v'shalom !! Every bas yisroel is akin to a kallah. That's why instead of burkas every girl will be required to wear a dek tichel.
But not chas v'shalom burkas !!
Burkas?? What are we moslims chas v'shalom !! Every bas yisroel is akin to a kallah. That's why instead of burkas every girl will be required to wear a dek tichel.
But not chas v'shalom burkas !!
Which "Rabbi" will be in charge of checking that the girls have on the proper underwear? I heard Rabbi Pupko is looking for a job.
I agree. The Israeli chicks are known for "putting out".
They need to be "put in" their places.
They are waaaaaaay out of line!
They need to be "put in" their places.
They are waaaaaaay out of line!
OK, so we know anonymous is misogynous from his despicable characterization of my neices as sluts. Nice touch.
But I would like to see verification of the story which does not seem to be directly related to the takanos I've seen.
But I would like to see verification of the story which does not seem to be directly related to the takanos I've seen.
I grada am pissed off now.
The oilam cant hang on maalchei yisroel on erv shabbos and dream ah shtickle no more......
nebach.
al eilah ani bocheeya. :(
The oilam cant hang on maalchei yisroel on erv shabbos and dream ah shtickle no more......
nebach.
al eilah ani bocheeya. :(
Let's not all get excited here . You are all not reading the Takonos the right way. Usually in the Gemorah there is a Machlokes on what was said, and then there is Rashi to help us understand what they ment.
I think the snaps that they were refering to is, in America called a GARTER BELT.
I hope I settled this .
I think the snaps that they were refering to is, in America called a GARTER BELT.
I hope I settled this .
My wife wants to know if any of the boyz can explain what the heck underware straps are?
She also says that thongs just happen to be much more tzniyus-dick anyways.
Also I strongly beleive that these rabbis are just a bunch of horny gang-bangin' cross-dressers.
let them keep on parading around with their pack of lies until they get cought nailing some 14 year old whores.
Just wait. I'll be right.
She also says that thongs just happen to be much more tzniyus-dick anyways.
Also I strongly beleive that these rabbis are just a bunch of horny gang-bangin' cross-dressers.
let them keep on parading around with their pack of lies until they get cought nailing some 14 year old whores.
Just wait. I'll be right.
Some "rabonim" need those child molesters need those snap underwear they cant take off without a prison warden unlocking them
A perversion of Rashi's comment like I've never seen, u Am HaAretz.
Jesus used your kind of logic. The church has the monopoly on telling people to follow blindly. Our Torah, Torahs Emes requires our leaders to be true to the original Torah and not in pursuit of thier own agenda and shtussim. Pnei Hador Kipnei Hakelev. As for an explanaition to rashis comment on tefilin, look up the rishonim not the comments of todays spindoctors and medicine men.
Jesus used your kind of logic. The church has the monopoly on telling people to follow blindly. Our Torah, Torahs Emes requires our leaders to be true to the original Torah and not in pursuit of thier own agenda and shtussim. Pnei Hador Kipnei Hakelev. As for an explanaition to rashis comment on tefilin, look up the rishonim not the comments of todays spindoctors and medicine men.
This post is over the top. I can get "Yeshivish reporting" aka 'rumors and lies' elsewhere. I'm done with Chaptzem.
Now lookie here Anon.The underwear snaps thing i havent heard of it and could be Chaptzem is full of it on that one.But shut the fuck up about calling Israeli girls sluts.I just fucking luv it when some Chardeidi nut starts calling ALL israeli girls sluts.The hell do you know ,huh? Were you checking them out too?I bet you like them young too,you fucking perv!
If you want to say that some girls are dressing imodestly go ahead.But dont start with the generalizations.That just shows how uneducated you are.Because that is called a "fallacy of logic".
Comment Credit ---This article posted by Jacob Da Jew : January 24, 2007 2:34 PM
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You have such a way with words! Have you considered writing for Hallmark?
All kidding aside, after reading your post I almost charotah for giving up nivul peh. No matter with sick idea they come up with next I'll never stoop to thier level by cursing.
Ah, what the *)&%(&^%$^%$#@!!!
If you want to say that some girls are dressing imodestly go ahead.But dont start with the generalizations.That just shows how uneducated you are.Because that is called a "fallacy of logic".
Comment Credit ---This article posted by Jacob Da Jew : January 24, 2007 2:34 PM
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You have such a way with words! Have you considered writing for Hallmark?
All kidding aside, after reading your post I almost charotah for giving up nivul peh. No matter with sick idea they come up with next I'll never stoop to thier level by cursing.
Ah, what the *)&%(&^%$^%$#@!!!
OK OK LISTEN UP EVERYONE. FIRSTLY IT IS OK AND GOOD TO INQUIRE ABOUT GEDOLEI ISRAEL TAKANAS (DISCUSSING IF THE TAKANA WILL HAVE THE DESIRED EFFECT) BUT HERE PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY ATTACKING THE GEDOLIM THEMSELVES AND CALLING THEM PERVERTS ETC. THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE SECOUNDLY THE RABBIS ARE ACTUALLY RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES A GIRL BENDS OVER AND HER SHIRT LIFTS UP AND YOU HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OF HER BACK SIDE. I THINK ITS A GREAT IDEA. AND TO THE ONE WHO INSULTED THE ISRAELI GIRLS. HASHEM DOES NOT LIKE IT WHEN YOU INSULT HIS CHILDREN. THAT INCLUDES THE RABBIS TOO. IF YOU WERE IN THEIR SHOES YOU WOULD NOT LAST A SINGLE SECOND!!
LOL.all right..I usually dont go off the handle like that but when some $%^&^ a$$h0$e starts insulting people he never met ,well then,let the games begin RRRRRRR!
Tzinius should stay in the realm of reality. When you set impossible standards that seem very far from what is actually written, girls tune out. They disregard not only the takanah, but the entire tzinius package. Why don't we stick to what's cut and dry? Then women can work up to a higher madragah when they are ready. Focus should be on the beauty of the mitzvah.
Years ago being machmir on tzneus meant women wearing bullet-proof stockings. Yup, those were the good old days.
LOL @ Yisroel.
p.s. where can i get my rabbit-tzen a deck tichel?And them bullet-proof stockings?Maybe we can send some to iraq for the poor soldiers.
wouldnt want any chamorim to be maavir michshol B'Rishus Harabanim
p.s. where can i get my rabbit-tzen a deck tichel?And them bullet-proof stockings?Maybe we can send some to iraq for the poor soldiers.
wouldnt want any chamorim to be maavir michshol B'Rishus Harabanim
its so much fun reading all these comments here. is it maybe possible for us to try and get the girls side of the story here instead of only the mens????
I think you should remove this whole
"news UNworthy story". It is full of nivel peh and really not called for. When you (chaptzem) wrote the news (you could have left out some parts) you were instigating this RIOT!!
PLEASE STOP NOW!!.
Such a chilul Hashem!!
"news UNworthy story". It is full of nivel peh and really not called for. When you (chaptzem) wrote the news (you could have left out some parts) you were instigating this RIOT!!
PLEASE STOP NOW!!.
Such a chilul Hashem!!
I'm female.
And my husband is next to me, and agrees with me.
IT's THE GUYS AT FAULT!!!!
1st of all, where were you last night? the red light district? And how many frum girls did u see there? from what the last chassidishe guy told my hubby, the jewish girls don't go there. that's why u guys think there's nothing wrong with cheating your wife - you'll never be tattled on.
GET A LIFE!
Chaptzem,
I can't believe you allow such fowl language on your site!!!!!!!
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And my husband is next to me, and agrees with me.
IT's THE GUYS AT FAULT!!!!
1st of all, where were you last night? the red light district? And how many frum girls did u see there? from what the last chassidishe guy told my hubby, the jewish girls don't go there. that's why u guys think there's nothing wrong with cheating your wife - you'll never be tattled on.
GET A LIFE!
Chaptzem,
I can't believe you allow such fowl language on your site!!!!!!!