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Let's wait before all the facts are in before we comment. One newspaper shouldn't automatically be believed over another.

 

do you suggest that this public advertisement paper shall write about a "molester" or a "rape"?

 

what about the family and the girl? Yes we all know what happened, but do we need to announce it to the whole world? The little girl will have enough problems without evreybody pointing at her at saying "nebach, there's that girl that was molested" GIVE them back a LITLLE DIGNITY

 

To Mr. Chaptzem
Your mind must be so twisted and perverted, by your complaint about "the cover up".
Whatever this publication is, it is being read by young and old, would it make sense to detail and describe the story??

 

The public has a right to know. By keeping the story public it will increase awareness. The first step in preventing another occurrence is being aware of the potential for something grave to happen.

 

Yeah, they should've followed the lead of the great and enlightened secular media and given all the embarrasing details.

Somehow it would help us all knowing all the nitty grittys. At least we would all feel "in the know", the victims embarrassment be damned.

 

the point is we create a semi fantasy world and we then grow up believing that tora and yiddishkeit belong to that semi fantasy world, and then there is the real world we start living in

 

She was last seen at 7:30, and the women who found her called 7:45. So they are correct in saying it was only a few minutes. Considering drive time, walking down the block, etc 7 minutes is close. The girl herself said that he told her to stop crying and got aggravated that she didn't so her put her out of the car.

 

If you want to find something to make fun off, why don't you pick on the stupid comments made by the "Shomrim spokesman" Y. Daskal.

 

Would it not be a nice thing for the future of the girl and her family, that we stop writing and talking about what happened?
Lo saamod al dam reiacho!

Lets learn the lesson of ehat happened by being more vigilant on our children, and also of other heimishe children in our neighborhods. But please do a mitzva and leave this family alone now.

 

The writer could have left out the last line thae is underlined. No lie and revealation of salacious details.

 

The story is also featured on the front page of todays Hamodia

 

to all those 'preachers' out there who are still living in fantasy world - why don't we face reality and DEAL with it. rape happens. molestation happens. there are crazy people hurting innocent others. the jewish people are not living in a vaccuum where nothing happens to them. keep hiding the truth; keep creating rebels in our community. grow up; deal with reality. we live in america; it's far from perfect - DO SOMETHING about it - don't deny it!!!!!

 

The public has a right to know. By keeping the story public it will increase awareness. The first step in preventing another occurrence is being aware of the potential for something grave to happen.

Comment Credit ---This article posted by you're the stupid one, apparently : July 19, 2007 1:01 PM

Can you please provide the simen in shilchin urich that gives people 'the right to know'???

 

It gets us all aware knowing that she was kidnapped we do not need to know that she lost her virginity to this guy in the black car which might still be a jewish guy.

 

The siman in Shulchan Aruch that talks about this is in the obscure 5th volume - the one entitled "Common Sense." By downplaying the severity people will continue to be lax about protecting their children. This is a fact. Someone recently commented that "why should I tell my kids if nothing really happened?" Lo samod al dam reacha.... Most people I would imagine don't even know the name of the victim. People apparently need to be SCARED. Walk up and down BP and you will often see kids STILL playing alone!

And let's not invoke the shulchan aruch when we aren't required to do so...because one may venture to ask where in the Shulchan Aruch does it say to wear vaisa zugen on shabbos....

 

Prediction : If the guy who they catch turns out to be a goy, the papers will be screaming it from headlines and you'll talk about it with ALL the details.
If the perv turns out to be a "frum" guy, then it'll be swiftly brushed under the carpet and anybody who says anything will be screamed at for loshon hara.
Oh and according to "shilchin urich" or whatever mangled pronounciation you use, what this perv did wouldn't even be considered a crime.

 

You guys are right, we need to do exactly as the secular media does. After all, isn't the secular society extremely successful and wouldn't we want our kids to grow up just like them? Give us a break, We have ways of doing things, and they have their ways. I wouldn't want my daughter romping with her classmates when she is 15 etc. Isn't that simple enough?
Oh, I am probably one of those brain washed guys from Willy, right?

 

What's wrong with you buddy? You're the kind of guy who will condemn someone who wears his tzitzis out for being too frum and someone who wears them in for being too frei.

On the one hand you manage to paranoically imagine that the cops are bringing unrequired busha to the family by sitting outside their doors and on the other hand you accuse the newspapers of lies in order to save the family (not to mention the girl as she grows older) of that same busha.

As for the subject at hand, it's quite terrible and I think that writers probably did the noble thing. (Unless you're arguing for a major reversal in how the community views sex - something you don't appear to be advocating in reporting this subject.)