Wednesday, October 24, 2007
To fress or not to fress, that is the question
Williamsburg men fressing kigel and kishke on the street with teriyaki sauce dripping down their beard, what a pretty sight. Aren't there enough fresseries on Lee Avenue without a Mobile Oichel B'shik Unit?
Some hate the new food truck, and obviously some love it, the guy wouldn't have so much business if nobody wanted it. Williamsburgers have been protesting the food truck since it started, yet business keeps getting better. If it is so wrong to have a food truck in Williamsburg, and if the Rabbonim have so much power over their people, then why does anyone have to protest against it? Just tell the people it is usser and they will stay away. Right? Why is it so difficult to deal with such a minor nuisance in the tightly controlled Williamsburg neighborhood? Could it be that people have had it with the word 'NO' already and are just doing whatever they want?
One thing this proves for sure, people like their fress more than their Rabbonim. You can tell people whatever you want when it comes to voting for a specific candidate and they will listen. However, come between a guy and his potato kigel and you lose big time.
Williamsburg men fressing kigel and kishke on the street with teriyaki sauce dripping down their beard, what a pretty sight. Aren't there enough fresseries on Lee Avenue without a Mobile Oichel B'shik Unit?
Some hate the new food truck, and obviously some love it, the guy wouldn't have so much business if nobody wanted it. Williamsburgers have been protesting the food truck since it started, yet business keeps getting better. If it is so wrong to have a food truck in Williamsburg, and if the Rabbonim have so much power over their people, then why does anyone have to protest against it? Just tell the people it is usser and they will stay away. Right? Why is it so difficult to deal with such a minor nuisance in the tightly controlled Williamsburg neighborhood? Could it be that people have had it with the word 'NO' already and are just doing whatever they want?
One thing this proves for sure, people like their fress more than their Rabbonim. You can tell people whatever you want when it comes to voting for a specific candidate and they will listen. However, come between a guy and his potato kigel and you lose big time.
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"However, come between a guy and his potato kigel and you lose big time."
Haha! That is damn funny yo! Money quote!
Haha! That is damn funny yo! Money quote!
If they want to protest they shouldn't take it out on the food truck as it seems since people are buying the Willy's are as much to blame. Let them take care of their own people first.
I'm Jewish but not a Chassid. I don't really see what the big deal is with this? As long as the food is Kosher what is the big deal if they are selling it out of a truck or out of a store? As long as people are enjoying the food and it is clean and Kosher. What is the problem here?
shaitels, bugs in water,chasuna guidelines, now what? A FOOD TRUCK?
looks like we're running out of issues to make a b'huluh about. Time for the 'askonim' to sit down and make a comprehensive 12 month outlook on what to make issues about so that we're forewarned. It will keep them busy while giving us advance knowledge!
looks like we're running out of issues to make a b'huluh about. Time for the 'askonim' to sit down and make a comprehensive 12 month outlook on what to make issues about so that we're forewarned. It will keep them busy while giving us advance knowledge!
The problem, poor non Chusid, is that kashrus and hygeine are not the focus here.
Chasidim are obsessed with being different from goyim. Goyim eat take-outs, so we musn't. They are also preoccupied with being old fashioned as a principle, so anything twentieth century will meet with opposition.
This is all fine, if wacky, but is made even odder by the Charedi world's failure to face up to their real problems - like abuse cover ups, financial wrongdoing, uneducated masses who cannot provide for themselves, family sizes beyound the practical etc etc etc.
So basically the message is, anything which looks modern is ossur. Deeper problems are obscured by a concentration on superficiality.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_think
Mass self denial is nothing new...
Chasidim are obsessed with being different from goyim. Goyim eat take-outs, so we musn't. They are also preoccupied with being old fashioned as a principle, so anything twentieth century will meet with opposition.
This is all fine, if wacky, but is made even odder by the Charedi world's failure to face up to their real problems - like abuse cover ups, financial wrongdoing, uneducated masses who cannot provide for themselves, family sizes beyound the practical etc etc etc.
So basically the message is, anything which looks modern is ossur. Deeper problems are obscured by a concentration on superficiality.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_think
Mass self denial is nothing new...
Obviously, Anon 5:26 iz anair vos fashtait nisht on inyun. Un mistameh air farshteit nisht a geshmake kigul och. All joking aside, I've been saying this for years. It is becoming increasingly true that the only difference left between chasidim and misnagdim is the fact that we speak yiddish. Where is the kedishe? Where is the yiras shoomayim? How far have we fallen?!? Not only are we not in the least bit embarrassed to sit out on the street eating, there are even those who can't understand the problem. "As long as people are enjoying the food and it is clean and Kosher."
Dear Anon 5:26,
Do you ever stop and ponder what your purpose in this world is? Were we created to simply fulfill our desires as we wish? Or maybe, just maybe we were created with loftier goals. For example, to serve the creator by adhering to His will. With that in mind, our Sages have taught us that eating in the Street is far from a respected behavior. To the extent, that such an individual's testimony is not accepted by Jewish courts. No matter if you understand it or not, that sounds like "big deal" to me! It is not enough for the food to be Kosher, our actions must also adhere to a kosher standard. And that my friend is the problem here. Ilove you brother but remember kigel was not made to be eaten on the street. The end.
Dear Anon 5:26,
Do you ever stop and ponder what your purpose in this world is? Were we created to simply fulfill our desires as we wish? Or maybe, just maybe we were created with loftier goals. For example, to serve the creator by adhering to His will. With that in mind, our Sages have taught us that eating in the Street is far from a respected behavior. To the extent, that such an individual's testimony is not accepted by Jewish courts. No matter if you understand it or not, that sounds like "big deal" to me! It is not enough for the food to be Kosher, our actions must also adhere to a kosher standard. And that my friend is the problem here. Ilove you brother but remember kigel was not made to be eaten on the street. The end.
Ich mein as oib Ich red Yidish ken zein di geist besser farstein.
Der problemen in inzerer velt senen gresser vi essen in der gass.
Der echt problemen senen goor groiss. Nor di vus redden fin azelecher kleinkeiten vill as mir zul vern farnemmen mit shtissim in nisht chappen as der gantzer derech daft an ernster tikin.
So there!
Der problemen in inzerer velt senen gresser vi essen in der gass.
Der echt problemen senen goor groiss. Nor di vus redden fin azelecher kleinkeiten vill as mir zul vern farnemmen mit shtissim in nisht chappen as der gantzer derech daft an ernster tikin.
So there!
Williamsburg men fressing kigel and kishke on the street with teriyaki sauce dripping down their beard.
I have passed the "fress truck" several times and never seen anyone eat thier food on the street. Are you trying to report news here or do you have some sort of an agenda? It sounds like the latter to me.
I have passed the "fress truck" several times and never seen anyone eat thier food on the street. Are you trying to report news here or do you have some sort of an agenda? It sounds like the latter to me.
to anon 7:25 AM
Is that really the whole problem? Is it the eating on the street? I, too, am clueless as to why this guy is being singled out.
What if people buy it and take it home or to work with them? Is it different than other take-out?
I understand the aspect of not eating on the street, but it seems like it's more than that, and if it's not, these people need to get a life. They may be doing "turning away from the negative", but don't seem to spend enough time on "doing the positive"
Can someone explain
Is that really the whole problem? Is it the eating on the street? I, too, am clueless as to why this guy is being singled out.
What if people buy it and take it home or to work with them? Is it different than other take-out?
I understand the aspect of not eating on the street, but it seems like it's more than that, and if it's not, these people need to get a life. They may be doing "turning away from the negative", but don't seem to spend enough time on "doing the positive"
Can someone explain
BTW has anyone ever been to a Kiddush at a Chassidesheh shul? eating out of a food truck has got to be a step up!
There's a misreading of the "oychel ba'shuk" concept here. Look in the meforshim; it is taken to mean someone who lifts food from the market without paying, ie someone sampling food from the shuk, the marketplace.
As far as the comments about fressing with teriyaki sauce dripping down beards, come on, that's just the old Yiddishe self hatred, its what keeps us as a nation :)
As far as the comments about fressing with teriyaki sauce dripping down beards, come on, that's just the old Yiddishe self hatred, its what keeps us as a nation :)
Are the people buying from this truck actually the food while ON the streets? Or are they bringing it home? Is the problem eating in public while standing up or is it buying food that wasn't homemade?
What do you expect from people who see their elders eating with their hands (at a Tish), push, shove and knock the next guy over while dripping greasy food (think herring) on the next guy!!!
This is the next generation of those!!!
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This is the next generation of those!!!