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Saturday, November 24, 2007

Maimonides Medical Center offers great service - for throwing out patients' family members

A Yingerman was thrown out of the Intensive Care Unit at Maimonides Medical Center by a hoard of security guards on Shabbos. A Yingerman came early Shabbos morning to Maimonides to be with his grandfather who was at the ICU. When the Yingerman got to the hospital he asked the security guard at the front desk if he could go up to his grandfather at the ICU, to which the guard replied yes. The Yingerman proceeded on his way to the ICU. However, as soon as he stepped into the unit a group of nurses began yelling at him telling him to leave and that they were calling security to throw him out. The Yingerman, completely confused by what had taken place, asked in a polite voice to know what was going on. The nurses just continued to shout at him and said that security was already on their way. Within a minute the Yingerman was surrounded by a platoon of security guards who forced him out of the unit, trying to push him into an elevator until he insisted that he would only go with the stairs because it was Shabbos. When the Yingerman asked when he would be allowed to see his grandfather he was told to come back later. The Yingerman waited around to be with his grandfather but was not allowed in until many hours later at 12 pm.

Comments:
I am sure there is another side to the story. It does not seem likely that the "yingerman" had "no idea" why the nurses asked him to leave.

 

Years ago the security guard ran after me to kick me out. This happened after i went with my wife to the labor room but was denied entry because she already had one person with her (her coach). This was not even the delivery room just the labor room.

 

it's about time someone exposes the GAY security guards for what they truly are.

They are a bunch of anti-semite bastards and they are untouchable.
Douglas Jablon is their puppet.

They are run by chief espositos brother.

Thanks chaptzem for bringing these as*holes down on their knees.

 

Is this the same yingerman who crashed his plane?

 

I also had my issues with Maimonides Hospital, even wrote up a whole post about them:

http://jacobdajew.blogspot.com/2007/09/maimonides-hospital-frickin-zoo.html

Wouldn't go there at all now.

 

it depends on the staff i saw a person with id (volly)get thrown out of the icu by the nursre

 

I unfortunatly spent almost a year at MMC with family, and NEVER had a problem with security allowing me in at any hpur of any day. There are times that the nurses would ask me to leave when they do the rounds or something. This guy you are writting about was probably a smart.... and made people crazy, or refused to excuse them when asked. I am no big fan of MMC, but this doesn't sound right!

 

nobody should ever use that hospital even for giving birth.

They're all antisemites- every department, every floor.

Stay out of there for your own good.

 

better have your baby at home than going to Maimonides.

MAIMONIDES SUCKS BIG TIME!!!

 

how about this they kick out the realy sick people when they think they won't make it. they advise you to transfer the sick to a other hospital for some stuped reson so when the person dies it is not on there record
so they have a very low death rate and the best heart center when all they are doing is giving poor service colecting millions and letting people suffer
they can do a beter job ..they should do a beter job but untill we don't speek up it will be the same

 

Anon. 8:PM a "Yingerman" like "Anonymous" can be anyone.

 

I’m going every shabbos in Maimonides to give out food for “Yad Ephraim” I never had a problem or heard anyone complaining
I don’t say, the nurses don’t have any feeling to patens and of course to family the er is a zoo I agree I set there with my grand father 2 days till he got a room what went on over there I cant write a real zoo
By night I dint have a chair to sit at all
I saw the chesed from Hatzulah unbelievable
The security in the er are very strict but it has to be a system
But upstairs in the rooms I never had a problem with security
There is 2 hours every day that everyone must leave and that’s it I set already nights in Maimonides with my grand father I never had a security problem

 

I was in the ER a few weeks ago at 2AM, and my Very pregnant wife sat down next to me, when a nurse came over and explained that the chairs are for patients only. I tried to reason with her, and she went to call security, and they demanded she stand up!!
This is ridiculous. There is no heart in Maimonides and its time that the community stand up.

 

ICU stands for intensive care unit. do you otherstand they can't allow dirty yids entering a location where contamination can ruin another's patient's life.

 

it's our fault because we let them get away with everything. there board of trustees has many community people on it and they couldn't care less as long as all beds are filled up who cares about service.
lets try using other community hospitals like Methodist or Lutheran or Long Islang Col. for 3 months and you will see how fast things will change at Maimo.

 

Being in Maimonides is WORSE than being in a zoo. It's HELL there.

 

THE STAFF IN MMC IS CRUEL TO EVERYONE THAT STEPS FOOT THERE- COWORKERS, PATIENTS, VISITORS, ETC.

I hope that one day, in the very near future, they close that hospital down.

 

Anon 1:18

Thanks for the clarification. These Jewish/English words are so confusing.

 

Why are you going to maimonidies in the first place? its known to be taken over by the Malach Hamovies.

 

my daughter had surgery in beth israel hospital, the nurses were like family the guards were very nice and understanding.

 

MIMONODEIES HOSPITAL IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF A HEART TRANSPLANT.... LOL

 

Maimonides could never compete with any other hospital. Their services are lousy through and through.

 

Be careful if you bring in a child with a bruise on the body. They'll call the police and charge you with child abuse.

 

Maimonides does not have the proper equipment necessary in treating elderly people with various diseases. Their doctors suck.

One can stay in the ER at least 15 hours before being seen by a hospital dr.

 

November 25, 2007 3:07 PM

Amen to that. You couldn't say it any better. A Bracha oif daana kop.

 

People should pick the right MD as a shliach and go to the hospital the MD is at.
My wife had head and neck surgery by a Dr Urken at Beth Israel. The staff was very polite and helpful. I went home for the night and they gave me the nurses station telephone number. I phoned at 6 AM and the RN told me how the night went then apologized for not having more time. The RN helped my wife several times at night getting out of bed. This is not the norm for a Hospital, they were great.

 

Never go to a dr. that's affiliated with Maimonides.

 

whats a yingerman?

 

A person will always get the proper medical care when they don't deal with Maimonides.

All doctors working at Maimonides are Rochtzim.

 

Even Maimonides Mental Health Dep't across the street is a lousy one.

 

Anonymous at 9:26 PM said...

"All doctors working at Maimonides are Rochtzim."

I certainly hope so! Wouldn't want them to spread germs!

LOL!

 

November 25, 2007 9:57 PM

We already have alot of germs the minute one enters a hospital. All hospitals are full of bacteria you go in sick and come out sicker than when you go in.

 

I’ve read your experiences on this blog. Blogging may make you feel better – however, reporting can actually make a difference. Only reporting problems and having them documented can make our local hospitals better.
VAAD REFUAH is a patient advocacy organization. VAAD REFUAH will document all your stories, of course keeping them confidential, and take whatever steps are necessary to resolve your issues.
Please call VAAD REFUAH at 1877-9-REFUAH and you can also log your experiences on www.vaadrefuah.org.
CHANGES IN OUR HOSPITALS CAN ONLY BE MADE IF THE COMMUNITY VOICES THEIR DISPLEASURE/OPINIONS IN A CONSISTENT SYSTEMATIC MANNER. YOU CAN MAKE CHANGE HAPPEN!!!

 

Unfortunately, most of the critcism here is probably true. I should know since I've had personal experiences and am a medical professional. I've actually seen where a patient with stage III CHF (congestive heart failure) was hooked up to air instead of oxygen by a so-called doctor. I've also seen such elementary mistakes made by the nursing staff as to put the patients life in immediate danger. I've also seen some really exceptional medical service but more often than not, the incompetence is the norm.

 

more frimer people need to get jobs @ Maimonides Med.
Having frim people on the board is one thing, but when there are a lot of haimish working 6 days a week in as many departments as possible it is harder for bad apples to hide there dirty little secrets.
on the other hand if more haimish people worked there there would be better communication and understanding from the frim community when decisions are made that people don't like.

 

I don’t know about all your stories here, but I have (unfortunately) had in recent months/year a few experiences in Maimonides and had no problem with service. The patients as well as the family were treated with great care and dignity and had no problem with the guards or the nurses. Yes I also had a incident were my father in-law was in the ER for a long time until he got a room and then they postponed a procedure, which he wasn’t allowed to eat, for no good reason and was only done after someone spoke up and said that since his being released is depended on the results and he wanted to be home for shabbs. It was on a Friday after he was in the hospital for 3 days.

Yes there are better hospitals then Maimonides but I want to point out that any hospital that you go to there will always be people that complain about it and will tell you that hospital sucks.

Nobody should ever have to use ANY hospital and be healthy!!!

 

Funny that while everyone here is bashing Maimonides, they were ranked No. 1 in New York State for Cardiology Services by HealthGrades. Check out these links for the story.

http://www.brooklyngraphic.com/site/tab6.cfm?newsid=19054602&BRD=2384&PAG=461&dept_id=552852&rfi=6

http://www.brooklyneagle.com/archive/category.php?category_id=27&id=11110

This is from 2006
http://www.metropolitannurse.com/moxie/industry/maimonides-medical-center-7.shtml

 

call chaim and leah leshkowitz I am sure they will look into the matter

 

Everyone complains but does nothing about it. If you have a problem call the organization Vaad Refuah (see earlier post) and call the Hospital Gripe Hotline 800-804-5447. You will help others.

 

My grandfather was in the ER on a Friday night as well. I brought him his home-cooked meal and the guards refused to let me in. I was very courteous and well-mannered. It made no difference. They were mean and nasty just the same.

 

The "patient reps"-(hospital reps) have been calling security on many of the family members. For the crime of trying to explain to staff what meds their loved on is on. One would think they would at least pretend they are "patient reps".

 

I was once at the receiving end of Vaad Refuah's assistance. They were unbelievable! I was in the hospital and they really came through. Kol Hakovod!!

 

Maybe more people should call 311 and tell the departmant of health what the emergency departmant looks like...a zoo even though the zoo is much cleaner. Pateints waiting for days and no place for family to sit

 

I was once at the receiving end of Vaad Refuah's assistance. They were unbelievable! I was in the hospital and they really came through. Kol Hakovod!!

Ahem. Shameless self-promotion?

 

THE ICU AT MAIMONIDIES IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY.THE DOCTORS ARE EXCELLENT.UNFORTUNATELY THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT APPRECIATE THE HOSPITAL.TO THE COMMENTS ABOUTASKING PEOPLE TO LEAVE IN THE ICU,WOULD YOU LIKE PEOPLE WALKING IN ON DOCTORS ROUNDS WHILE YOUR RELATIVE IS IN THE ICU?GO TO HARLEM HOSPITAL ,YOU WILL ALL COME RUNNING BACK TO MMC.

 

hey suker colombia prespeterian is in the hood and it is the best heart hospital period and i see a lot of jewish boys coming here to so they do come to harlem

 

MY FATHER WAS IN MMC FOR QUITE SOME TIME & I DONT THINK ITS A GOOD HOSPITAL BUT 1 THING WE NEVER HAD A ISSUE WITH THEM THEY LET US SLEEP AT HIS BEDSIDE AT NIGHT THE ONLY TIME WE HAD TO LEAVE IS FROM 8AM- 11AM & FROM 7PM -8 FOR ROUNDS FIND ANY HOSPITAL THAT LETS YOU SLEEP IN THE ICU

 

I have a idea why not follow the rules I see a lot of people are complaining but they keep going back to the hospital. Why is it that ever-time someone disagrees with Jewish people they are anti -semitic?
I see on another topic someone drew a picture of something on a dirty car they were saying it was anti-semtic in the dirt on the car and it wasn't .

 

Maimo, is the dumping ground for all foreign grads that come from pakistan, india, mexico. That is, no normal US medical graduate would ever consider coming to their programs and residencies. That in it of itself says loads about the quality of their medicine. In fact they weren't able to hire even 1 united states MD graduate in the past 2007 academic year.

 

I am a Doctor in Brooklyn. We have stopped sending our sicker patients to Maimo because the care was so bad. It's a shame.

 

MMC is getting worse by the day. I am no longer working in that hospital. Although I live in Bklyn and wanted to work in a place where there isn't a long commute, because of the cruelty, meanness staff at MMC has towards patients, visitors and even towards Dr's & nurses themselves, I decided to quit my job and will be working in Manhattan at another hospital beginning next Mon. I'd rather deal with the commute than to see & deal with all the nastiness and meanness in MMC.

 

Why is there a picture of Rabbi Gluck in a full page ad in the Boro Park Community News promoting Maimonides?

How much did he get for it?

What about Jablon, another "token yarmulke?" What do these people do to help the average person in the community, you and me?

Nothing!

If Maimonides has done bad to you, you do not need to go to some self-promoting organization in the neighborhood.

To complain about the hospital, contact the New York State Department of Health at 1-800-804-5447 of at http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/healthinfo/complaintform.htm

Maimonides is accredited by the Joint Commission on the Accreditation of Health Care Organizations. Unfortunately, many in our community have never heard of this group and therefore it rarely gets any bad feedback about Maimonides. Contact them at http://www.jointcommission.org/GeneralPublic/Complaint/

Don't be fooled by hospital employees calling themselves "patient advocates." As the Gemara clearly states, "the one who prosecutes cannot be the one who defends."

Don't be fooled by this obvious conflict of interest. These people exist to cover the hospital's rear, not yours.

If you need an "advocate," see a lawyer.

 

December 05, 2007 2:00 PM

Thank you for your advice

 

I had terrible time there when my mother was sick. Some of the nurses should be fired (I was about to say).(To be fair - others were complete angels - that god should them give strength to continue their good work)

I was partially disappointed is the patients reps. The should be called patient abusers. Particularly bad marks I'd give to Fanny L.

 

They should shut that place down murders are commited there every day A nurse in ICU was caught pulling the plug on a respirator When asked her response was "IT WAS AN ACCIDENT" do you buy that? Some tinkele choleria Thats who is running that joint Sorry Douglas the truth has to come out Wake up Pamela and see whats going on there. Torture and pain to patients are the norm. My father spent way way too much time in that hospital. When we tried to transfer him, couldn't get him signed out Ran into shabbos while being transfered to a Manhatten hospital. Imagine seeing an open syringe alongside a patients bed telling the superior didn't help anything either while the actual nurse is sleeping there in the corner all the meds on the table nobody gives a crap to what goes on in that hell hole SHUT THAT PLACE DOWN!!!!!!!!!

 

for those who keep claiming that Maimo has "statistically" the best in heart -- Coney Island Hospital, according to the State statistics is better for heart care than Maimo!! Maimo is a substandard hospital by all comparison of statistics (you can do it yourself by researching the web and the State has a site where you can line up the hospitals and do comparisons of them). They abuse patients and families -- and call ACS randomly when they feel they are not being "treated right" by a family or a patient and turn in parents with alleged abuse claims. I still cannot understand why our community shops in Saks and Bloomingdales, looks for the designed labels for their clothes, shoes, linens, etc., but then let their loved ones have a shlock hospital. In NYC, where we have the "designer label" hospitals, some of the best in the country and the world, why would ANY careless person take their family to Maimo?

 

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