Tuesday, March 25, 2008
Mother of 12 suspected of abusing kids
A 54-year-old mother of 12 is under arrest for allegedly severely abusing her children, police said Tuesday.
The Beit Shemesh resident is also suspected of failing to report multiple cases of incest among her children. She was remanded for six days by the Jerusalem Magistrate's Court on Tuesday.
It is the latest in a spate of cases of alleged child abuse in Israel, and comes less than two weeks after a haredi US immigrant couple living in Jerusalem were arrested for seriously abusing their two small children, aged three and four. One of them remains hospitalized in critical condition.
The suspect, who cannot be named by order of the court, was arrested last month after neighbors heard a child crying for help and objects being broken in the home, a police investigator told a Jerusalem court at a remand hearing on Tuesday.
It took police two hours to gain entry to the home, with the intervention of local rabbis. Officers and social workers soon uncovered brutal physical abuse of several of the children, including whippings with both belts and electric cables, according to a police officer's court testimony.
The mother is also suspected of breaking one daughter's nose with a rolling pin, leaving her children to sleep outside in a locked shed when they came home late, and preventing them from receiving medical treatment for their injuries. The mother said it was all part of their "education," according to court documents.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1206446101627&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
The Beit Shemesh resident is also suspected of failing to report multiple cases of incest among her children. She was remanded for six days by the Jerusalem Magistrate's Court on Tuesday.
It is the latest in a spate of cases of alleged child abuse in Israel, and comes less than two weeks after a haredi US immigrant couple living in Jerusalem were arrested for seriously abusing their two small children, aged three and four. One of them remains hospitalized in critical condition.
The suspect, who cannot be named by order of the court, was arrested last month after neighbors heard a child crying for help and objects being broken in the home, a police investigator told a Jerusalem court at a remand hearing on Tuesday.
It took police two hours to gain entry to the home, with the intervention of local rabbis. Officers and social workers soon uncovered brutal physical abuse of several of the children, including whippings with both belts and electric cables, according to a police officer's court testimony.
The mother is also suspected of breaking one daughter's nose with a rolling pin, leaving her children to sleep outside in a locked shed when they came home late, and preventing them from receiving medical treatment for their injuries. The mother said it was all part of their "education," according to court documents.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1206446101627&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
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And the schools didn't notice this? Sick, just sick.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by 
: March 25, 2008 11:36 PM
: March 25, 2008 11:36 PM
The article goes into more detail--it's worse than it seems.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 25, 2008 11:39 PM
: March 25, 2008 11:39 PM
what a pity that she wasn't caught earlier... i feel bad for all her children who sufferred all their life!
It's about time that people in the frum community stop protecting abusers!!
There are thousands of frum children that are suffering from abusive parents today!! people know these children and see their pain yet do nothing about it....teachers, neighbors, relatives...
they just turn away and pretend like it's not their business... but it is their business!! because these children need them- the people on the outside who can help!
These parents forget that their children come through them and not to them! They view their children as personal property that they can do with what they wish! how do i know this? because i grew up in an abusive home! and i always wished that someone would say something or do something. a child living in abuse is powerless to think, act or say anything.
it takes years to reverse the torment and erase the scars...if only we can prevent any more children to suffer this way.
It's very sad....May Hashem send all these parents a refua shelaima as they are truly sick! and may he free these children from this pain.
It's about time that people in the frum community stop protecting abusers!!
There are thousands of frum children that are suffering from abusive parents today!! people know these children and see their pain yet do nothing about it....teachers, neighbors, relatives...
they just turn away and pretend like it's not their business... but it is their business!! because these children need them- the people on the outside who can help!
These parents forget that their children come through them and not to them! They view their children as personal property that they can do with what they wish! how do i know this? because i grew up in an abusive home! and i always wished that someone would say something or do something. a child living in abuse is powerless to think, act or say anything.
it takes years to reverse the torment and erase the scars...if only we can prevent any more children to suffer this way.
It's very sad....May Hashem send all these parents a refua shelaima as they are truly sick! and may he free these children from this pain.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 12:42 AM
: March 26, 2008 12:42 AM
This woman is the leader of the Ramat Beit Shemesh-based burka women cult.
Her son in law is Binyamin Friedman - the leader of the kannoim in Beit Shemesh that have been the source of all the violence in the past.
Her son in law is Binyamin Friedman - the leader of the kannoim in Beit Shemesh that have been the source of all the violence in the past.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 7:14 AM
: March 26, 2008 7:14 AM
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO THE WOMAN IS....SHE IS REALLY SICK! AS A MOTHER OF CHILDREN WE CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW ANY PARENT CAN REALLY HURT HER KIDS...WE WERE GIVEN KIDS TO PROTECT THEM FROM ANY HARM.....THE NATURAL INSTINCT OF A MOTHER IS TO BE HURT WHEN A CHILD IS HURT....TO DO IT TO YOUR OWN KIDS IS SICK...REALLY SICK.
I HOPE SHE GETS ARRESTED AND GETS ALOT OF MOTHERING CLASSES IN PRISON.
I HOPE SHE GETS ARRESTED AND GETS ALOT OF MOTHERING CLASSES IN PRISON.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 3:33 PM
: March 26, 2008 3:33 PM
Who knows if this woman was not abused herself when she was growing up. They say that when a person abuses their own child/children it's because this is what they saw from their own parents. Their parents were cruel, abusive to them. History unfortunately repeats itself.
When a child is brought up in an abusive home, the child doesn't see that this is abnormal behavior. They don't think that the parents are doing anything wrong.
When a child is brought up in an abusive home, the child doesn't see that this is abnormal behavior. They don't think that the parents are doing anything wrong.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 6:19 PM
: March 26, 2008 6:19 PM
the worst part is that our meshuga community allowed her to be a lecturer on...can you believe it...chinuch!!!
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 7:17 PM
: March 26, 2008 7:17 PM
"JPost" is non religious zionist news.
Every one knows the TZIONIM are out to BASHMUTZ the frum Yiddin. Many times was it revealed after that the hole thing was made up.
Every one knows the TZIONIM are out to BASHMUTZ the frum Yiddin. Many times was it revealed after that the hole thing was made up.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 8:24 PM
: March 26, 2008 8:24 PM
yes, i remember to many stories that wear posted how the zionist forces out stories from innocent frum people that never happened just to bashmutz the orthodox.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 8:46 PM
: March 26, 2008 8:46 PM
mothering classes is good ONLY when she is actually involved with her chidren daily.
Parenting skills that are given in prison are not the same than when it's given when the mother is actually involced with the children.
Parenting classes in prison is called Parenting from a distance.
Parenting skills that are given in prison are not the same than when it's given when the mother is actually involced with the children.
Parenting classes in prison is called Parenting from a distance.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 9:25 PM
: March 26, 2008 9:25 PM
look at this ..."A 54-year-old mother of 12"... you'd think she has 12 children at home? wrong there are at least 5 or 6 married. and the article itself states that there weren't more then 2 children living at home.
its about one big SHMUTZ the worse the police can make the oylum look.
its about one big SHMUTZ the worse the police can make the oylum look.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 11:29 PM
: March 26, 2008 11:29 PM
just a second...
take a breath...
do you think for one second that a frum parent would do such a thing???
but what? how can such a story be created?
It seems to me that in Bais Shem when one is questioned it is not done freely.
The person is put under stress and great fear (and can be physical beaten to) and is asked all different [even far fetched] questions. In the case (logically most of the time) the person is not strong enough and can say cryingly ,,what do you think? yes what do you think yes i've done so and so and so??'' (in a "as if" type of speaking) but this is taken as if this was a peaceful admitting and the victim is then able to be charged.
take a breath...
do you think for one second that a frum parent would do such a thing???
but what? how can such a story be created?
It seems to me that in Bais Shem when one is questioned it is not done freely.
The person is put under stress and great fear (and can be physical beaten to) and is asked all different [even far fetched] questions. In the case (logically most of the time) the person is not strong enough and can say cryingly ,,what do you think? yes what do you think yes i've done so and so and so??'' (in a "as if" type of speaking) but this is taken as if this was a peaceful admitting and the victim is then able to be charged.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 11:47 PM
: March 26, 2008 11:47 PM
I remember a story wear an arab was charged with some terror related crime and it seems that the above tactic was used.
It was reported on the news that the "criminal" was caught and he was jailed.
on till...
TEN YEARS later was the real criminal cough.
just a lessen,
It was reported on the news that the "criminal" was caught and he was jailed.
on till...
TEN YEARS later was the real criminal cough.
just a lessen,
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 26, 2008 11:55 PM
: March 26, 2008 11:55 PM
I agree truly with the above poster, and you cant rely on the news for any thing like the storey with REB BURICH BER at the time ov the passing ov the BRISKER RUV.
REB BURICH BER did not sit shiveh when the news arrived and said that you cant trust a news paper and waited in till a shlyich came and reported the tragedy and then sat sivih.
REB BURICH BER did not sit shiveh when the news arrived and said that you cant trust a news paper and waited in till a shlyich came and reported the tragedy and then sat sivih.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 27, 2008 12:01 AM
: March 27, 2008 12:01 AM
B"H
Six or seven years ago, the mother did Teshuva. Not in a normal way but instead decided to join the Rabbanit Beruriah movement where Jewish women go for the extreme to totally cover themselves. Similar to Arab women.
Freaky Rabbanit Beruriah has her insane followers in Jerusalem, Safed and in Beit Shemesh where the mother lives. It was Beruriahs sick society letting the mother holding her lectures.
Six or seven years ago, the mother did Teshuva. Not in a normal way but instead decided to join the Rabbanit Beruriah movement where Jewish women go for the extreme to totally cover themselves. Similar to Arab women.
Freaky Rabbanit Beruriah has her insane followers in Jerusalem, Safed and in Beit Shemesh where the mother lives. It was Beruriahs sick society letting the mother holding her lectures.
I'm from the chareidi oylem too but I'm getting fed up reading reactions that keep saying how the press are liars. Guess what Rabboisai? We have our liars too! And if all we can do is deny to the world - and to ourselves - that we have big issues, we are really sad beings. I thought our yiddishkeit was supposed to teach us to be better people!!! All we know is how to say our biggest and most dangerous problems don't exist? Are we such cowards? And we pat ourselves on the back and say we're defending the Torah so there won't be a chillul Hashem!!! Denying the truth is worse. You think Hashem is proud of you for putting your head in the sand and making believe this is not true? Think again!
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 27, 2008 12:47 PM
: March 27, 2008 12:47 PM
I'm amazed the lengths people will go to deny that frum people are not exempt from abuse and molestation. It just this behaviour that allowed her to get away with it this long.
It seems it's preferred to ignore the abuse than to think " its about one big SHMUTZ the worse the police can make the oylum look."
Putting your head in the sand doesn't make it go away and it's to blame anonymous to blame Tzionim than to deal with the problem.
It seems it's preferred to ignore the abuse than to think " its about one big SHMUTZ the worse the police can make the oylum look."
Putting your head in the sand doesn't make it go away and it's to blame anonymous to blame Tzionim than to deal with the problem.
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 27, 2008 1:49 PM
: March 27, 2008 1:49 PM
11:47, and how does the questioning methods use produce children with visibly wounds including a broken nose?
It kills me, when these stories come up, it's always a rush to defend the parents. Those children are precious yiddishe neshamos. Shouldn't we be worried about them too before we say, "Oy, it's just the press out to to smear the frum again." Shouldn't we try to be SURE there isn't something to the story before we look away from another yid, a CHILD's, pain? Where is our rachmanos?
It kills me, when these stories come up, it's always a rush to defend the parents. Those children are precious yiddishe neshamos. Shouldn't we be worried about them too before we say, "Oy, it's just the press out to to smear the frum again." Shouldn't we try to be SURE there isn't something to the story before we look away from another yid, a CHILD's, pain? Where is our rachmanos?
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 27, 2008 2:50 PM
: March 27, 2008 2:50 PM
to anon 2:50 PM,
it seems that you to believe everything that the news reports with out thinking. this article from JPost was translated and angled according to there willings and goals.
Try reading the hebrew version that was reported by israeli channel 10 which contains "slightly" more accurately the reports and how they wear reported.
this mother was accused by one of the brothers
על פי עדותו של אחד האחים, האם שברה את אפה של אחת הבנות עם מערוך , הכתה את הילדים עם חגורה, ואף ידעה על גילוי עריות בתוך המשפחה.(from here is said by her 18 year old son)"ברור שזה שקר", אומר מ', "גילוי עריות בתוך המשפחה זה לא מציאותי בכלל, ועוד בתוך משפחה דתית חרדית". בתוך כך, טען כי לא יתכן שלא הבחין במה שקרה """ואמר כי אחיו הוסת על ידי דודתו - וכי אחיו משקרים""". "זה לא מציאותי בכלל. היא אמא טובה מתחשבת, דואגת לנו, כמו כל אמא בעולם", אמר.
http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=545981&TypeID=1&sid=126
this was reported by the israeli authorities but was not included in this article because the point of this report was to, yes - smear BASHMUTZ the orthodox religious
ממשרד הרווחה נמסר כי שירותי הרווחה נכנסו ובדקו את המשפחה בהתאם לחוק ובמגבלותיו של החוק. בבדיקות שנעשו לא נמצאו שום סימנים שיש בהם כדי להעיד על התעללות במשפחה. מבתי הספר דווח על התנהגות טובה של הילדים, ולא הוזכרו כל סימני מצוקה.
http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=546221&TypeID=1&sid=126
it seems that you to believe everything that the news reports with out thinking. this article from JPost was translated and angled according to there willings and goals.
Try reading the hebrew version that was reported by israeli channel 10 which contains "slightly" more accurately the reports and how they wear reported.
this mother was accused by one of the brothers
על פי עדותו של אחד האחים, האם שברה את אפה של אחת הבנות עם מערוך , הכתה את הילדים עם חגורה, ואף ידעה על גילוי עריות בתוך המשפחה.(from here is said by her 18 year old son)"ברור שזה שקר", אומר מ', "גילוי עריות בתוך המשפחה זה לא מציאותי בכלל, ועוד בתוך משפחה דתית חרדית". בתוך כך, טען כי לא יתכן שלא הבחין במה שקרה """ואמר כי אחיו הוסת על ידי דודתו - וכי אחיו משקרים""". "זה לא מציאותי בכלל. היא אמא טובה מתחשבת, דואגת לנו, כמו כל אמא בעולם", אמר.
http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=545981&TypeID=1&sid=126
this was reported by the israeli authorities but was not included in this article because the point of this report was to, yes - smear BASHMUTZ the orthodox religious
ממשרד הרווחה נמסר כי שירותי הרווחה נכנסו ובדקו את המשפחה בהתאם לחוק ובמגבלותיו של החוק. בבדיקות שנעשו לא נמצאו שום סימנים שיש בהם כדי להעיד על התעללות במשפחה. מבתי הספר דווח על התנהגות טובה של הילדים, ולא הוזכרו כל סימני מצוקה.
http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=546221&TypeID=1&sid=126
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 27, 2008 11:48 PM
: March 27, 2008 11:48 PM
2:50 pm, do you know how to read??? this article said "The mother is also suspected" know one ever saw wounds its only some report, suspicion - no evidence, read the above and think...
Comment Credit ---This article posted by : March 27, 2008 11:55 PM
: March 27, 2008 11:55 PM
It is amazing how illiterate most of the commentators are. They spell everything wrong so you cannot really understand what they are saying. It looks like a bunch of letters all written by one uneducated uninformed fiction writer. Of course this abuse goes on in the 'frum'world. Very much so. Frum people use their 'tzidkus' to hide behind their evil deeds. Just because they have long peyos,beards and long dresses and head coverings,doesn't make them tzaddikim. They are mostly hyppocrites!
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: March 30, 2008 8:17 AM
