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Monday, September 15, 2008

What the 'hell' are we doing here? 


Comments:
ha ha ha

 

wow, that's crazily funny, but so sad at the same time.

 

FROM: THE GOLEM
ANOTHER CLASSIC CHAPTZEM...
BUT LET ME TRY TO EXPLAIN - IN BRIEF - THE SIDE OF THE RABBIS. SINCE I AM ONE OF THEM. ALL OF OUR MOSDOS AND REBBES AND MANAHLIM AND RESPONSIBLE LEADERS ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF THIS KILLER PROBLEM IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND FOREVER ROOTING THIS THING OUT WITH SHARP EYES ETC BUT THE WORK MOST BE DONE BEHIND THE SCENES. WHY? 1) ITS NOT GONNA HELP THE VICTIM 2) ITS NOT PREVENTING ANYTHING 3) GREATEST CHILLEL HASHEM (THE MEDIA WILL JUST EAT US ALIVE) 4)IT WILL TAKE AWAY THE INNOCENS FROM CHILDREN AGAINST NORMAL ADULTS. 5) IN CASE THE CASE IS FALSE YOU KILLED A PERSON FOR NOTHING. 6) WHY SHOULD ALL THE FAMILEIS SUFFER? 7)IT WAS ALLWAYS HANDLED THAT WAY.
NOW, TO PREVENT PROBLEMS, ALL GREAT MOSDOS SUCH AS SATMER ETC ARE DOING A GREAT DEAL ABOUT IT SUCH AS MIKVA REBBES IN ALL THE MIKVAS, TALKING TO CHILDREN WARNING THEM ABOUT CHAZIRIM, TALKING ABOUT THE DAMAGE AND SO ON. HOWEVER WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC THE ISSUE SHOULD ALWAYS BE A SILENT THING.
YOURS: THE GOLEM

 

to the scetch artist
I wonder what gives you the authority to decide whu goes to gehenem. Maybe protecting some one who did tshuva will get them in gan eden ?

 

To poster 12:04

Are you for real? It is a crime
to withhold any information
regarding child abuse. You claim
to be a Rabbi.... I hope you
are not aware of any child abuse
and not reporting this abuse to
the police.
You end your post with "when it
comes to the public the issue
should always be a silent thing.
What the hell doe's that mean.....

 

I don't think this GOLEM guy is a real person. No-one can be that clueless.

 

it is a bigger crime to accuse someone falsely, and to me the rabonin who learn torah will always have the last word, not a kosher-delight-stuffed-fat-shaved faced. this cases should always be handled by rabonim in a private office and not in public and i agree with the golem.

 

to all of you defending any protection of these "animals",wait till your son comes home and tells you his rebbe touched his p***s---then see how protecting you are of these "animals".The way its always been handled is a crime in itself.

 

If only it is done that way. These rabonim probably say , why should I get involved in such a shmitizga zach? Se past nish far mich tsi zurgen in dei zachen. And if they do get involved, who do you think they are gonna believe? The "fina rebbe" vos iz mechanech the kinder mit ah tayere mishpocha? Or the kleine rotze who is a troublemaker?

 

To anonymous at 1:43 pm: Is it okay if it's a "kosher-delight-stuffed-fat-UNSHAVED-face"? -- Such an odd factor you choose as important.

It appears obvious that handling these things in private hasn't and doesn't work. There are molesters out there abusing children for decades and nice little friendly backroom chats with rabbonim haven't stopped them yet. I say make it public, put it on the front page of the papers, on the television news. Nothing will scare them more having their neighbors know what kind of animals they are.

 

Since when are you people who use unclean language are an authority on unclean men ? I agree with the Golem let the Rabbis handle these cases . A broch tzu columbus if u people handled these cases Hashem Yerachem

 

what gehienim do the litvish go to?

 

Golem: you are a sicko and are just like your counterparts if you are really part of them. If you are rabbi, you must be educated. Why the Gehinnom can't you spell or write a complete sentence?

 

Golem with all respect, you said
"4)IT WILL TAKE AWAY THE INNOCENS FROM CHILDREN AGAINST NORMAL ADULTS." and then you finished off,
“ALL GREAT MOSDOS SUCH AS SATMER ETC ARE DOING A GREAT DEAL ABOUT IT SUCH AS MIKVA REBBES IN ALL THE MIKVAS, TALKING TO CHILDREN WARNING THEM ABOUT CHAZIRIM"

Sounds to me like you contradict yourself when you say they shouldn’t be told about these stuff and then you say that the moisdos do actually talk to them about it, please explain what you meant.

 

Newsflash for you Rabbi Golemstein:

Walk into a room full off rabbonim, askunim admorim and roshai yeshivos and report a case of child sexual abuse and your life will be in dangered by the stampede to the door.

If you believe these sick problems are being dealt with by the rabbonim you are takeh a real goilem.

 

Can these issues be handled quietly?
Lets ask R Kolko. I must assume that Margo spoke with him years ago-did it stop?
Those that scream dan leKav Zchus- he plead guilty already.

 

To the Golem and all other fools who think along the same lines, please refer to the following.

Here in Melbourne Australia, earlier this year a principal in one of the schools ran away to Israel after being exposed. What followed was a debacle of the highest level. The information that came out was disturbing in the greatest way.
YUes, the Media got a hold of it, it was FRONT page news across Australia. The key issue that the mdeia had was NOT the molestation but rather the ridiculous antics that the Rabbonim and board members of the school were involved with in trying to cover it up.

The facts are:
1) Molestation can happen anywhere to anyone at anytime - this is reality
2) what are the measures put in place by institutions to combat it - if there aren't any, or they don't align with government regulations (because we have a Torah therefore we know what's best) - THIS IS WHAT THE MEDIA WILL ZOOM IN ON
3) Do not cover it up, do NOT hide the perpertrator - Rav Moshe Sternbuch of the Eidah Charedis is clear on the is point: You MUST inform the police and have these people removed from society
4) what are you doing for the victims -> THIS IS HUGE TO THE MEDIA
5) Is your first priority the victims or protecting the institution -> THIS IS WHAT THE MEDIA POINT OUT

It's very simple, it's only a matter of time till the Frum world copies the the non-Jewish world where victims sue both the sick individuals and the MOSDOS and SCHOOLS -> The Jewish community can't afford to settle BILLIONS of dollars without having close schools, shules and other institutions!!!!!

 

The Jewish community can't afford to settle BILLIONS of dollars without having close schools, shules and other institutions!!!!!

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : September 15, 2008 10:35 PM
The money? That is what is important to you???!!!

How's about we cannot afford to have the purest yiddisher neshomos destroyed by child molestors?to

 

R' Matisyahu Solomon is so sensible when speaking about Tznius and other serious matters. What does he say about this Inyan?

 

The Rabbonim clearly are not handling the situation. Unfortunately, all they're good for at the moment is sending out threats. What have we come to when the Rabbonim want to protect those who ruin our children's lives?

 

Dan kol adam lekaf zenus!

 

If someone molests your child get the molester beaten to a pulp. A couple of beatings and the problem would be solved

 

neshomas are priceless, but money is what talks to schools. A close friend won cases against the clergy in the parochial schools he attended in two states that abused him, as well as against the schools. He remembered what happened years later, after a health issue triggered repressed memories.

All the money in the world won't change what happened to him, but if it takes dollars to knock some sense (no pun) into roshei yeshivos to pay attention and stop letting children die slow deaths at the hands of those who abused them, they're in for a rude awakening, 'cause they'll lose a lot of money, if people start suing them.

I don't understand how anyone who knows something could not say anything.

To ignore is to condone. I'd hate to walk around with people hurting children on my conscience.

 

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