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No It is YOUR Anti-Satmar atttitude which is sickening.

You just hate all chassidim. You must think all chassidim with that appearance are Satmar. That is ignorant.

Also, to believe that NK is Satmar is even more ignorant, since the Satmar Rebbe spoke out many times against the NKs for over react, and it is those, the ones who over react with whom you have a problem I guess.

I presume you support the NK people who work for a peaceful Jerusalem. That is the main goal of NK. The guardians of Jerusalem. Those maniacs who hugged our enemies are not normal NK, and are certainly NOT Satmar.

Satmar Rebbe, Z"L often said that we may NEVER support those who would harm Jews!

That guy who went to join Achmenejad at that conference is not welcomed in Satmar. Satmar HAS spoken out about him, and other like him, loud and clear.

But you are just a hater.

Also, though Satmar IS the largest Jewish sect (larger than Chabad) all those who look like Satmar are not necessarily Satmar. There are over 100 other brands of Chassidim who dress and look the same as Satmar.

You are just an ignorant, hatefuul person. Spend a week in Willi or Kiryas Joel. Get to know these people whom you hate.
Ask them questions. Get to know them. You will be surprised.

I did. I left with an entirely different image from the one I was brainwashed with by my YI rabbi.

I found Satmar Chassidim to me the nicest, kindest, most gentle people I have ever met. They practice what they preach. They do not preach to oursiders, but they do practice what they preach to each other.

They give more of their money, time and effort to helping out their fellow Jew than any other group I have ever met. You don't need to be religious even for them to help you. You are a Jew who needs help, Satmar is there to help you. And they won't try to "convert" you to their ways.

Their help, their free meals, their free busses to the hospitals, their kosher lunchrooms at the major hospitals, is all done with no strings attached.

Their work to help out any Jew who is encarcerated, even one who can't read a word of a siddur, has no strings attached! You are a Jew, they will do what they can to help you.

They show more love of their fellow Jew than any group.
And, here you hate them.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

You may not agree with their opinion on Zionism, but that is not grounds to hate them. They alwasys knew I was a Zionist, and I stayed in their homes, and was shown nothing but love and respect.

 

nebach.

hey look, he's not covering up with towels and shooting at children!

 

To Annon 10:56

OMG! You are so naive. True Satmar and Nk are two different entities but on the other hand they stand side by side against Israel and the Chayalim.

 

Enough with your Pro-satmar propaganda. I understand your satmar, but sometimes the truth hurts and Just because I criticize
the lunacy and hypocrisy of Satmar-
that means I hate all chassidim?
when did Satmar become all chassidim,?

The point alone that I hate all chassidim is ignorant.

Why not take a step back and look at the point Im making-

NK is almost all Satmar.
Do you know any Lubavs, Lakewood blackhats, Litvish, Sephardics, Modern Orthodox, even Reform Jews in NK?


you say:
"Those maniacs who hugged our enemies are not normal NK, and are certainly NOT Satmar."

Just read their website-all they bring down is the satmar rebbe and they say themselves they are Satmar.

Then you say:
"I presume you support the NK people who work for a peaceful Jerusalem. That is the main goal of NK. The guardians of Jerusalem"

Is this the normal Nk you talk about:

just look at the signs they held up at the protest today in Jerusalem-

http://haaretz.com/hasite/images/iht_daily/D070109/NetureiKarta.jpg

you tell me thats for a peaceful Jerusalem-you are fooling noone

and yes I am a hater-I hate people who support my enemies who want to kill me and my family-the question is why dont you hate them too?

You say:
They give more of their money, time and effort to helping out their fellow Jew than any other group I have ever met- Maybe you need to meet other people besides Satmar.
That is the most ignorant statement I ever heard!! UJA alone is worldwide and gives 100X more than the whole satmar community combined.

Bikur cholim and helping Jews I applaud the Satamrs for-

But if Hamas gave charity and did Bikur cholim too, that dont make them right.one thing has nothing to do with the other. On one hand they are helping jews on the other they are helping our enemies.So we should all be quiet because of the good things they do?

and for your info- I know Kiryas Joel well, I work in Williamsburg,
I eat at Roebling Deli twice a week
(nice family), So dont judge me if you dont know me- its a very ignorant thing to do!!

So instead of focusing on me-focus on the problem at hand. We are at war and these normal Jerusalem nk satmars(you called them that)are protesting while jewish soldiers are fighting for them!!

Why not make a demonstration not for ISrael but against HAmas for the rockets. Not 1 sign in the protest against the rockets.Dont you find that wrong? The people in sderot are less important than the people in gaza?
thats the point Im making

 

to number 1 and 2
guys stop bickering at this time

since the killing in Mumbai
all yiddin frun modern chassidish litvish etc. are all united
look at satmer lubavitch they are coming closer
donations mikvos etc.
why bring up things like this lets have unity achdus amiti

if the Satmer Rebbe can say good things about lubavitch who are you to come a diversify the am yisroel
(and if one has too much gas it might smell and or be uncomfotable for a minute or twoo just ignore it it will pass)

 

Anon, 10:56, why are you all bent out of shape over a picture?

 

thats how they live in crown heights

 

thank u chabad ..... but try to hold the gun right when ur shooting at neturei kartah!!!!!!!

 

I am 10:56

I am not all bent out of shape about the picture. I think it is kool!

I am bent out of shape about the writes of those hateful remarks about our fellow Jews.

I a Zionist who has very much contact with Satmar Chassidim, and I find them amazingly wonderful human beings. I find them full of love and caring for all Jews.

And it infuriates me to see people bash them.

Sure, there are some crazies in NK whom I would love to personally castrate, but those are not Satmar. Those are not even regular NK, those are extreme NK.

What ticks me off, is these very people who hate Satmar so much, may one day find one of THEIR loved ones in a hospital, and have Satmar come up to them and offer them an expensive Manhattan hotel room to stay over Shabbos, so their loved one is not alone for Shabbos.

When you see Satmar Chassidim take a man who is wearing a tiny yarmulke with a star of david on it, and walk him across the street to a hotel room, and bring him food for his family for Shabbos, all because one of the person's family is stuck in a NY hospital, you start to understand what Ahavas Yisroel is.

I knew a man who was sitting in a NYS Prison. He was in his 2nd year of a 15 to 20 sentence. One day he found he had a Satmar man as a visitor. The man not only broght him food, and arranged special priviledges for him, but "found" money for another attorney to appeal his case.

He is walking free today, because of the help of Satmar.

When he asked, "I am barely shomer shabbos, I wear a kipa seruga, and sometimes leave it off. My Jewish identity is that I donate money to Israel. Why did you help me?"

The Satmar man replied, "You are a brother Jew. It is a chiyuv. How could we let a fellow jew suffer if we could help."

Though he was invited to the person's home in KJ, he was never preached to. All the help he received was with no strings attached.

He did spend one week at that man's home in Kiryas Yoel, and got to know his warm loving family.
When he left, he cried.
When the Satmar man asked, "Why are you cryin?"
He replied, "To be honest, I used to say all kinds of hatful things about Satmar. Now I understand that I never knew what Ahavas Yisroel was before I met you. You know I was not your kind at all. You visited me over 50 times. You collected money, arranged for a better attorney, and got me out prison. You invited me to you home, and only showed me love. And, in the past, all I showed your kind was hate."

I know that man. He is my cousin. He now davens at YI, and is a really shomer shabbos Mod Orth Jew.
But, if you bash Satmar to him today, he will look at you as if you are a fool.

 

I am a Satmar Buchur. I was in one of those protests.
When I got back, I had my head handed to me. My father is coming down to meat the Mehahel and me tomorrow, and we are going in together to see the Rebbe.

I can tell you first hand that they do NOT approve of these protests. My ears are ringing at the moment, my face is still red from the humiliation, and I am scared out of my wits about what will happen tomorrow to me. All because I attended an anti-Isreali rally.

It was shouted at me today, "We NEVER do anything which could help the enemies of the Jews. Though we may disagree halachakly with the medina, we MUST NEVER aid or abet their enemies!"

It could not be made clearer.

To be honest, I knew this before. But, this other guy was going, I wanted to be in it. I had never experienced a rally or protest before. I knew it was wrong, but though, "How bad could it be?"

Well, I know better now.
I appologize to EVERY Jew for my attendance at that rally.
Tomorrow I really pay for my sins. My father does not know yet. I am too scared to tell him. He will not be happy. And, to go to the rebbe in trouble?!?!

Any of you who believe Satmar does that, well, sometimes there are idiots like me, but Satmar does not condone that behavior at all. Don't blame Satmar. Blame morons like me.

 

TO:
satmer and lubavitch lover

You say since mumbai we are united-
these same people said the mumbai chabad rabbi and his wife had it coming to them because they were zionists.

please do a little research and look it up.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3638621,00.html

 

I don't know who said that horrible thing, but R. Aron, the Satmar Rebbe from Kiryas Joel, called them Kedoshim, and said the were murdered "in a mokom kodosh"

That does not sound like he said that anyone deserved it, Gd Forbid

 

To Satmar Buchur:

Thank you for your honesty

Good luck Tomorrow


now how do we get the rebbe to talk to the other 100 guys?

Can you imagine the impact of 1000 or even 100 Satmar chassids protesting against the rockets falling on jews in sderot?

Tears would flow from my eyes-because I knew they put the well-being of Jews before anything else.

 

Every Jewish soul has to support Israel at this time...
I have worked in Willi and have some of my hubby's family there and I won't judge anybody - but for me it's a tough crowd - and I wouldn't like to keep working there... but they are Jewish people and I think most of them are siding with Israel.

Chabad are for sure one of the most welcoming and generous chassidim in the World, there's no question about it.

But, let's not generalize. There are all kinds of Satmars as there are chabad. And we shouldn't fight over it, but rather unite - AHAVAT ISRAEL is essencial for the survival of Am Israel.

Let's unite and set all differences appart...Let's pray for the soldiers in Israel and may Hashem makes us all victorious and safe.

 

Satmar Bocher: Are you the real McCoy or are you a fraud? I can't help wondering since when Satmar bochrim know how to spell in English so well. The vocabulary is, also, impressive. The grammer, on the other hand......