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Tuesday, August 15, 2006

Fighting like Katz and Katz

Rabbi Leibel Katz and his brother are on the verge of going to court to settle a dispute over some money. Although the brothers keep threatening each other to go to court if the other one won't give in, they are nevertheless reluctant to actually do so because of what may come out in the public because of it.

Comments:
is that the school cats ? the roov ?

 

chaptzim stop posting the dmbest stories about people fighting over money let them sort it out themselfs with out you embaressing them

 

Which brother? From Where? What is the money fight about? More details plz?

 

Which brother? How much $ ?

 

I don't know who these people are or why their personal fight has to be published here on this blog. It is Loshon Horah and even if some people know about it, it is still wrong to talk about it in public. Don't you have anything better to write about?

 

its the whole family 10 children, its 6 siblings against 4 siblings and yes its over money

 

its not simply about money. its about mamon hekdesh.

 

Is Rav Label and his Fairmont brother ( the two big Katz) on the same side of the fight?????????????

 

different sides. tov shem mishemen tov. rav leibel katz's reputation is unimpeachable. which side of the sichsuch would you want to be on?

 

YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF SICK MAMZEIRIM WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN GOSSIP ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE!! WHAT DIFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?? GROW UP!! ITS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHY THERES MACHLOKES I KLAL YISROEL!!! THIS BLOG SHOULD BE CENSORED!!! IT SHOULD BE CALLED LOSHONHORA.BLOGSPOT.COM

 

the fairmont katz is a ganiv

 

Hello! Not that the details of this specific situation are publicly known yet, you might be interested to know that Rav Label has accumulated an equal amount of Chassidim AND Misnagdim over the last 30 years (especially in money matters)! Nisht alles vus glantzed iz gold!

 

rav leibel katz is a great jew!and dont think its about$. its not a smart thing to mess with holy ppl like rav leibel who gives his life for others

 

it is such a shame how the rich brother wants to take away from the brother in chinuch

 

the hipocricy of these rabonim is unbelievable!!! they are ready to jump out and write a siruv against anyone they hear that wants to go to court regardless of the fact that there might be a heter arcaous. but when they want to go to court, they can do so with impunity. just how many innocent lives have these rabonim destroyed with their insensitive ignorant busybody ways? i know ive been there. and dont preach to me about lashon horah these vermin have to be exposed for what they really are!!

 

the suggestion that rabbi katz initiated any action in arkaos is a bald-faced lie. the rest of your rant is as out of context as cholent on a tuesday.

 

To those that fear the Lashon Hara aspect of blogging:
The truth always surfaces!!!!!!!!!! One definite advantage of blogging is people's "blogphobia". People hesitate to commit sins if they fear being exposed. When wrongs are not likely to be revealed, more people do wrong. Admit it! Whoever commits sins deserves to be exposed. Let them be an example for others of what NOT to do.

 

What about the fear of G-d? Obviously this Katz guy could care less about Bloggers or G-d. He's stealing from the rest of family.

 

I learned by Rabbi Leibel Katz, and he is a pure Rodef Sholom.

 

RAV LABEL IS A POSSUK HADOR. THE BROTHER IS A CHAYA GOMMUR WHO MAMMASH STOLE AND CHEATS IN BUSINESS

 

apparently all of the important people that surf this blogspot know all the details and is able to start accusing hichever side they think fit. It is obviously impossible that this rift digs a little deeper than greed from both sides. otherwise you wouldn't have taken your precious time to share with others. such gomlei chasodim in Am Yisroel

 

i have noticed that all comments pass through an editor. this editor is probably such a yorei shomayim and publishes loshon horoh/motzei shem rah l'shem shomayim

 

i'm writing from a mutual perspecive. I know the katz family real well....all i can say is all is in hashems hands & there is a next world for a reason. Leibel should act in a manner which represents his speeches & his dress. He's the exact opposite in reality of what he represent. Hashem yerachem to those people who follow im his ways

 

Only Rav Leibel's closest of kin know for sure the extent of his guilt or innocence in this specific matter, but I do know that there are many that have been taken advantage of monetarily by Rav Katz. He's no Rav Pam- not even close- He's "in it" to "$win$ $it$".

 

Comment #25 - i'm writing from a mutual perspecive. Leibel should act in a manner which represents his speeches & his dress. He's the exact opposite in reality of what he represent.

Gee, I'm glad you are an unbiased opinion. However, Rav Leibel is not the Katz brother that gets chased in the street by people screaming, "you're a ganov-give me my money back."

Comment #26 - Only Rav Leibel's closest of kin know for sure the extent of his guilt or innocence in this specific matter.

Next you'll tell us only Jon Bonet's family knows the extent of her guilt or innocence. This isn't brain surgery. Follow the dots.

 

i dont think its anyones buisiness to take sides, what in the world do you hope to achieve? do you think the opposing side will see what you wrote and give up? more likely he'll just fire up. i dont know any real details but its not my problem,"People hesitate to commit sins if they fear being exposed. When wrongs are not likely to be revealed, more people do wrong. Admit it!"thats it! the explenation for this blogspot.

 

just look at how hungry we are for details!
"Which brother? From Where? What is the money fight about? More details plz? is that the school cats ? the roov ?Which brother? How much $ ? Is Rav Label and his Fairmont brother ( the two big Katz) on the same side of the fight?????????????"
and then you answer:
"the fairmont katz is a ganiv it is such a shame how the rich brother wants to take away from the brother in chinuch the hipocricy of these rabonim is unbelievable!!! they are ready to jump out and write a siruv against anyone they hear that wants to go to court regardless of the fact that there might be a heter arcaous. but when they want to go to court, they can do so with impunity. just how many innocent lives have these rabonim destroyed with their insensitive ignorant busybody ways? i know ive been there. and dont preach to me about lashon horah these vermin have to be exposed for what they really are!! What about the fear of G-d? Obviously this Katz guy could care less about Bloggers or G-d. He's stealing from the rest of family.i'm writing from a mutual perspecive. I know the katz family real well....all i can say is all is in hashems hands & there is a next world for a reason. Leibel should act in a manner which represents his speeches & his dress. He's the exact opposite in reality of what he represent. Hashem yerachem to those people who follow im his ways Only Rav Leibel's closest of kin know for sure the extent of his guilt or innocence in this specific matter, but I do know that there are many that have been taken advantage of monetarily by Rav Katz. He's no Rav Pam- not even close- He's "in it" to "$win$ $it$". Gee, I'm glad you are an unbiased opinion. However, Rav Leibel is not the Katz brother that gets chased in the street by people screaming, "you're a ganov-give me my money back." Next you'll tell us only Jon Bonet's family knows the extent of her guilt or innocence. This isn't brain surgery. Follow the dots."
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You did a great job at copying & pasting. I wonder which side your'e on?

 

R'Label is full of it on this one. He thinks he is entitled to the money because he runs a Yeshiva that needs it despite the Will saying it is split equally amongst the children. Maybe the Father promised it to him but an oral promise in the face of a written one isnt worth the paper its not written on. Chilul Hashem and Pechisas Kavod Hatorah. For shame! Mesirah and Arcoas Hagoyim violated here too by him and his Gang in addition to Rechitzah. Those who know, know. His prior psaks have to be examined to see if they occurred while he was Itim Shotim as he is now. R'Label - look deep into yourself and you will find the Truth. Get back on the Derech.

 

One brother is a chashuva possuk and Rosh Yeshiva. The other one is in business, mortgages and real estate, how honest can he be already?

 

Anyone who has the chutzpa to talk against Harav L. Katz is being mevaza kovad hatorah birabim and YOU HAVE NO SHARE IN THE WOLRD TO COME. Rav Label is a great talmid chacham and has a chazaka of being a holy yid and a yorei shayim. If you are comfortable with your self playing judge and jury.....so help you g-d. Reb Label helped me and many others lashaim shamayim. May he be blessed. The koach of torah always prevails.

 

Does everyone know the facts of this dispute enough to post their loshen hora on this website run by a few am haritzim who will one day have to stand accountable for all their actions and comments as well those who posted their unfactual opinions (which is called motzei shem ra) this website should be ERASED and replaced with some advice on shimiras holoshen as well as the punishments for peaple who are responsible for the spread of all this loshen hora

 

To "Does everyone know":

Why are you posting/reading this website??????????

This website serves as a useful tool to anonymously vent frustrations experienced by the Klal. It's alot cheaper and more beneficial than therapy. Otherwise YOU wouldn't give it the time you do.

 

Bottom line....Rav Label has NEVER been accused of stealing from anyone. Whereas the other brother, as most of Boro Park knows... has very dirty hands.

 

facts my friends for any one that honestly cares. Charlie Katz--Fairmont Funding has Fraudently put mortgages through Yeshivas and Institutions. He has also gone bankrupt in 1991. When he did for 14 years he screwed everyone in America. You Fools. Charlie katz has the perfect reason to make everyone beleive this fight is over money. I want to see one person in the world tell me that /rabbi label katz has taken a penny from anyone. I can name you over a 100 people that charlie katz -fairmont Funding and Fairmont Capital have stolen peoples last penny. Are you aware that Fairmont funding was almost indicted for insurance fraud? This is not about money this about Fraud about a couple of brothers that decided to use their learning brothers as ginny pigs. Are you all thinking? Someone that has given his life to helping torah for the last 50 years would fight over money? Ask people that work for fairmont ask people that left fairmont, Most of all ask people that were fired from Fairmont. MY close source tells me you are going to be in for the shock of your lives when the truth hits the fan.

My understanding was that mr. katz was an insurance broker. How much money could he have made to fight over? than divide that by 11 children? do you think Rav Aaron katz and Rabbi label katz would fight over this type of money. I look forward to the Blog when charlie katz is taken away with his brothers to the
Catskills for a long time and we all find out what this really was about. All I can tell you, check twice and make sure if you did a mortgage with Fairmont, that the your house is still under your name.

 

What about every second person on the street that says that Leibel Katz owes him thousands and thousands of dollars for who knows how many years already from teaching in the yeshiva and from loans that Leibel Katz has not repaid? How many fights has he had among his own congregants? I guess he is not as holy as he makes himself out to be. Seems that he is the "ganiv".

 

It is Interesting to see the above Comments. To breakdown this in simple English. I believe the difference between the Rav and his animal Brothers. Charlie Katz and his Desprate brothers, have no friends they have no followers they have no one that cares about them. All they have is a few Stolen dollars that they have taken from others and use that to scare and intimidate-in 1929 we called it the mob. Today we call it a man whos days are numbered. Any one that truly knows Charlie-- And I do, He is A deperate Depressed Man that has so much Kinah of his brothers who have made a life of Learing torah, teaching torah and Helping thousands.
While Charlie--- Has taken from Torah, Embarrassed Torah Hurt so many People who follow the Torah. Yes Mr. Charlie Katz, You can Take, you can hurt, you can Cheat, you can commit fraud,however you will never succeed.I would love to say a quote from the Torah, however I know that is like speaking German to you so I will Quote the English Language. Remember the famous words of our wonderful President, you can run you can hide and you can hurt. At the end you will be found and Justice will Prevail.

 

EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!! Small Struggling School short on significant sponsors has salary setback!! Wow!! What a story!!! Tomorrow's Scoop - Displeased Parishioners Part with Pulpit Preacher!! IF IT AIN'T IN CHAPTZEM - IT AIN'T DA NEWS!!!

 

I find it amazing that you say that charlie katz cheated, stole, etc.., BUT YOU STILL HAVEN'T COME UP WITH ONE CLAIM AGAINST HIM!! What do his mortgages and his company have to do with the will that they're fighting about?? You're supposedly fighting about the father's yerushah! Remember?!? All you've been doing is trying to make baseless charges, thinking people will cave in because of them. U say that "rav" label would never fight over such a small amount of money, but then HOW DID THE FIGHT START?!? Obviously charlie didn't start a fight over money he stole!It could only have been label and co. who began this whole macholokes!

The real truth is: label and co. can't handle the fact their brother is successful and honest businessman. Go talk to people that HAVE EVEN BEEN FIRED from fairmont, and see if you can find EVEN ONE DISHONEST THING that charlie has done! Talk to people that do business with them on a daily basis and TRY TO FIND EVEN ONE DISHONEST THING fairmont has done! They have built up their quality name through years of doing HONEST business, and his brothers unfortunately can't handle that!!
This is a typical case of people trying to squeeze money out of somebody that is more successful than them. label and co. don't even know what they're fighting about, they're just tring to get any penny they can, out of someone that has more than them.Instead of attempting to blackmail him, you just be happy and proud to see what charlie has accomplished and built up.
I'm glad u decided not to quote that piece of torah, because you obviously missed the halachos of lashon hora and motzee shem ra. DERECH ERETZ KADMA LATORAH! Try to start with the basics(i.e. manners), before you move on to torah, unless "rav" label guided you on that one also!!
A will gets divided evenly amongst the children. For some reason label thinks that he should get all or most(there isn't an official claim, so it can't be known how much money he thinks he deserves!!) of the money.
Thank G-d his father was sane until the end, and had the presence of mind to write a will, and NOW LABEL WANTS TO MAKE THAT WILL NULL AND VOID!! Nebach that his father, which i'm sure is in Olam Haba now, has to watch label turn into a thug after so many years where he was "learning" (i guess he forgot to look at the mussar seforim)!! Was "rav" label putting on a show all these years??
Isn't it interesting that label started the fight just about a month after his father passed away??
I just hope that label has enough in him to SWALLOW HIS PRIDE, and to ask his brother charlie and the rest of the family MECHILAH now before Rosh Hashanah!! When he says "Unesaneh Tokef" this year, and talks about G-d that knows all secrets, it will hit him like a bomb. Let's all hope that "rav" label and co. will ask MECHILAH before it comes to that!!

 

you must be one of the rabbis family and thats why your so vindictive.sorry but whats not yours, you can not have.

 

Stop this dumb Blog.To try and convince us that Chanina Katz and Fairmont are honest people, is like convincing us Iran is building Peaceful Nukes. I would sleep with Bin Ladin befor I did a mortgage with Fairmont. I can tell you Chanina Katz owes a personal friend of mine money for years. He is known everywhere to pay off our wonderful Rabbonim, When it comes to Beis Din. I don't know the Katz Family well-I do know Chanina and the other Katz from Fairmont are not people you want to go to Beis Din with. All they will do is pay them off.

 

DID YOU HEAR RABBI KATZ AND HIS GANG BEAT UP AN UNCLE AND MADE THREATS TO HIM?

 

"I do know Chanina and the other Katz from Fairmont are not people you want to go to Beis Din with. All they will do is pay them off."

That says a whole lot more about the integrity of your bais din than anything else.

 

YOU DO NOT SEEM TO HAVE MANY FRIENDS TO KEEP ON WRITING ON THIS BLOG.ANSWER THE MAN WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?IT IS EASY TO STATE THINGS AS ANONYMOUS.I WILL CHECK THE RECORDS BUT FAIRMONT HAS BEEN IN BUISNESS A LONG TIME AND I HAVE NOT NOT HEARD ANYTHING BAD.

 

Rabbi vs. Businessman?

This is a smokescreen!

Fact: There are more Rabonim and seforim that have been written from R’ Chanina and the siblings that are with him, then the minority group that is with label (the rest of his group are in business). This is business vs. business, with R’ Chanina and his siblings looking to carry out what their father has asked in writing.

These disgusting emails must be from one of labels working sons or son-in-laws writing this for him.

Rabbi or business – Truth is truth & Facts are facts!
This as well is a nice to time to thank Charlie Katz and his Fairmont Group for their honesty and employment opportunities that have benefited so many families in our community and all over the world.
Thank you and continue your great work

 

Chanina Katz::::::::::::

Stop putting fault on Rabbi Katz and his kids. I enjoy watching you write in second person how you are in your 50s who davened in the Shul. First you should get a life and stop writing blogs, dont you have a Laundry Mat who does Mortgages? Sorry I meant Fairmont. Second you have not gotten any respect nor do you deserve any and to anyone that knows, you are Jelious man that has never quite gottnen to where the Respectful people have gotten to. According to my information, you were thrown out of the Rabbi's shul. It is known around Boro Park and Flatbush You pledged money to shuls, the Agudah and many other institutions that you never paid. The definition of A bal chesed is someone who does chesed, not someone who pledges and does not come through on any Chesed.
I checked the Misnah Brurah-- you cannot pledge stolen money for Charity.

If you need money there is a Gimach. It wont be the first time you borrowed.

Yom Kippur is coming. Remember Hashem decides who lives and dies. If you don't want to meet your father do Tshuva now.

 

the focus was never the will. we need not speculate as to who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. yom hadin and yom hamishpat are both near. those who have nothing to hide-have nothing to fear. the world will soon discover...... the emes. oh, ksivah vachasimah tovah!

 

Allow me to introduce myself. I am a man in my 50s who blogs at midnight. Although I really don't know how many students Rav label has in his yeshivas, I am still certain that he is hiding money in his pillow and ALL of his followers are jealous of his other siblings because he told me so when he was sleep walking. Also please tell his kids that they can either beat up an uncle or take him to court-they shouldn't do both! Sorry, I have to hurry. The yellow school bus is here!!

 

To Those who claim rabbi katz is a posak.rabbi katz says do not buy new houses.He lives and owns a new house for over twenty years and his children own houses.rabbi katz says do not buy fancy clothes or sheitels.Look at his wife and children and see where they shop.rabbi katz says do not fight over inheritence.rabbi katz is fighting over inheritance of course in the name of momen hekdesh.but the worst was to come .rabbi katz and his gang said in a public record that their father,a tzadik gamur,was not normal for the last forty years.

 

To the above comment that Fairmont has filed for bankruptcy:

I have checked the records and Fairmont is completely clean. However, I did find that a father of a brother-in-law on Label's side did file for bankrupcy.

Then again, I don't know what this has to do with the fighting.

 

The man is his 50s. You must either find a nice jewish Lady or anything else that will make you happy. You sound lonely? you must get a life or a wife. I hope the man in his 50s is not Chanina Katz?

Stop taking your pills and snap out of your Depression. Fat people can be happy to. I am fat and happy.

Someone told me a joke at Fairmont, Please don't take it personally.

What is the difference between Chanina Katz and a Pita?

1 Shekel

 

Does anyone have directions to label katz school?
He is looking for it.

 

who is A.Weinshneider that is fronting for label katz on this blog system?

 

I am also a former member in the rabbi shul and like other members did what i thoght was right and would not follow what rabbi katz wanted .I had jacob katz ,rabbis son in my face screaming at me.we are all afraid of what he may say about us.why is that person in lakewood getting so personal?you know you are really not fat.Did you not have problems with your father a long time ago.remember its almost rosh hashana

 

Why did label Katz take this case to court? Isn't he against that? Does he ever practice what he preaches?
He likes to demand kavod for himself, he should worry about the kavod of his father.
Label stop starting fights!!!

 

It is probaly Avery Weinshneider. he is from Chicago.He davens by label katz, also a brother in law. He is also the lollipop man there.
His family loves these fights. Hobby or habit?

He is the # 1 Big fan of label and Joe katz is # 2. They will probaly fight about this soon as well.

 

FAQs - AFTER AN EXAMINATION OF THE RECORD
Q. Does size matter?
A. No. Neither the size of one man's tummy nor the size of one man's yeshiva, except that small yeshivas are always chronically underbudget due to economies of scale.

Q. Did Rav Label take this case to court?
A. No. There is no court document indicating that Rav Label initiated an action in court.

Q. Is Rav Label fighting over an inheritance?
A. At this point, all parties recognize that the issues are much more global than an inheritance.

Q. Is Rav Label disqualified as as a posek because he has lived in a new house for over twenty years, his children own houses and you should see where they shop for clothes and sheitels?
A. Huh????

Q. Can one be in the mortgage business and be honest?
A. Yes.

Q. Is Fairmont's solvency at issue?
A. No

Q. What is Rechitza 8/29/06 5:21pm?
A. I think its negel vasser.

Q. Did "Rav Label and his gang" beat up an uncle?
A. No.

Q. Who is in the right?
A. The purpose of the FAQ is ro remove loshon horah, not to promote it.

 

I to have am a former mispallel of rabbi katz's shul. I have since moved to flatbush. it is frustrating to have heard so many wonderful shiurim from rabbi katz, be they in taharas hamishpacah and in shalom bayis, only to now see that he refuses to practice what he preaches.In addition, on this past shabbos hagadol, his "drasha" was about his own personal agenda and his fighting. His brother Yossi, and his brother in law Avery, are people that are jealous of others, and need recognition. i watched as Yossi stayed away from the shul for years, because he was obviuosly slighted about kavod. now that there is a fight, suddenly he came back into the family fold. to quote aba eben, the former israeli prime minister when discussing the arabs, " The arabs never miss an opportunity to misss an opportunity". that is exactly what these brothers togethjre with thheir "rabbi" are doing. blowing an opportunity.

 

label katz and co. did start this fight, ask his wife Raizy (moskowitz).she promotes this nonsense.
She promotes her son Jacob to beat up an uncle.
Does this make sense for a rebezin.

 

i really do not know much of what is really going on or happening & it makes me sick to see what people write when they know basically nothing, but i do know a few things for a FACT!!!!!
about fairmont being dishonest & cheat people- FALSE!!! & no i not related & i do not work there!!
label katz is a rabbi- i know people who love him & i know people who hate him!!! nothing to do with this crap!!!! maybe it has to do with money matters in the past.. label's side (whatever taht means) DID beat up & rough up an uncle!! that i know for a fact in police papers & documents (i have connections way up & i verified that) so forget who is right & wrong, being a bully a beating up someone is the lowest of the low & just shows the trueness of how low u are & try to be a bully, JUST SOME FACTS!!!!

 

Sorry about your lack of knowledge.it is of record that label katz started proceedings in court. it is public knowledge by a witness who was later threatened by label katz wife that label katz son beat up his uncle.It is also public knowledge that label katz and the gang called their father,a kodesh gamur ,they called him not normal for the last forty years.he label ,should resign.would you like to have all these items published?

 

I HAVE A RIDDLE.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LAUNDRY MAT AND FAIRMONT?

ONE WASHES CLOTHING THE OTHER WASHES MONEY.

 

isnt it true that laibels son falsely accused his uncle Rabbi
Dovid Katz of hitting him and had him aressted and dovid spent a shabbos in jail because of falsehood. how could RAV LAIBEL ALLOW THIS????????????
what happened to the yeshiva chasdei torah is it now sold to kloisenburg? where is the money its hekdesh?
by the way the fight started before the LEVAYA when signs where posted possibly by 'MOTTY' this
scenario continued thru SHIVA
you should have seen the yelling and screaming with two sides sitting in different sections of the house it wasnt a shiva house but the parents must be turning over in their graves.
the chutzpa to call your father demented when he wrote the will.
that is the thank you for bring up 11 children paying tuition and feeding them.

 

who beat who up? did raizy beat her ucle? I heard raizy punced out her uncle she is a wicked fighter. I saw her. I also saw charlie katz's wife wearing sunglasses with her eyes black and blue. That was a different fight. It was Charlie beating his wife.

 

wow, this weinshneider dude sure seems to love this fighting. He goes from fighting with his own siblings and now starts a racaus by the katz family.
For what?
$$$$ - tell him to stop tanning and start being a mentch.

check the hechsher on those lollis.
we saw what happened in monsey.

 

I find it very interesting that this one person gets so personal about fairmont,a buisness that is around for over tenty five years.how many mortgage buisneses can say that, especially one without a blemish?keep up the good work fairmont and do not worry about low lives.you should be proud of hiring over one hundred frum people which feeds over seven hundred frum people.

 

who is raizy?is that label katz wife?did not label katz have to go to rav pom,zecher tzaddik levracha ?was it not because he hit his children and he was sued because of that?should we publish the lawsuit which others were also sued because they came to his defense.

 

i agree ,rabbi katz should check himself out for calling his father insane.that is the crux of the matter.money makes people crazy but that is not an excuse for an supposed rabbi.boy will you have to cry alot before yom tov.

 

Is rabbi katz real name Dr.kevorkian?what he did to his father and mother, zicronin levracha, but now to send his goons to threaten that that if people will not give in to label demands ,they should die their children should die,we will lie and close your buisness,this is a total disgrace.

 

why is there attacking fairmont?is not most of the family with their fathers rozon and against label katz and his gang.

 

Just Wondering

1. If Police records show that Uncle was the victim, why did the police lock him up over Shabbos?
2. Why are there NO papers showing that Rav Label started this court case?
3. Why did Team Fairmont go to court to prevent the sale of the Chasdei Torah building to Klausenberg? (The court quickly tossed this case.)
4.Can't we dump the ad hominem attacks - C'mon, beaten wives and treif lollipops? you sound like village idiots.

 

why are you beating around the bush?i heard the gang is label,joseph ,aron and chany weinschneider.i do not know how avery weinschneider and raizy moskowitz get into this picture?also why jacob katz lied and beat up his uncle also i do not know?but wait till that hits the fan.

 

An outsider..

I saw papers hanging in Boro Park and Flatbush a few months ago that stated Label and co. went to court and is not following the path of halachah.
Court sounds like where label went to me, based on all the info i am seeing here on the blog and on the street.

 

Outsider-

Of all the dummies that post here you are the biggest shoitah. You admit to knowing nothing, seeing nothing and having no evidence. But based on a loshon horah poster you announce your conclusions. At least if you kept your mouth shut no one would no what an am haaretz you are.

 

outsider..

So you are saying those posters are true about label. He should stop this, this is a disgrace. We must ALL follow the path of torah, not pick and choose what we want to.
why do they call themselves a gang?
Label, avery,joe etc..
is there a pass code for it?

 

FACTS:
-labels son jacob beat up his uncle & they went to court & jacob & family lost & were big time embarrased & now he is some what on the run!!!
-fairmont is an excellent company just ask all the thousands of satisfield clients, so stop being jealous!!!
-label is a rov & a lot of people respect & hold of him & a lot don't!! why this family issue went to the public-shame!!!
-this issue is NOT all about money, it is about what the father wanted to do/leave his children & some of his kids calling & disgracing a father who raised them & was a tzaddik!!! so even if u r very chashuv u still have to listen to your father!!!!
-i'am not related or have anything to do with anyone involved!! these are facts!!! either i saw police papers etc.... forget what "you" people say u saw online or didn't see!!
-the BIGGEST JERK is "JACOB" he used his hands just like "AISOV"- that totally crossed the line & anyone even if his parents should NEVER back such criminal horrible actions!!! everyone should daven for them!!!!

 

Mr. wondering. label katz with the aid of jacob katz had the uncle arrested . The law is whoever calls first gets the other one arrested and since jacob katz had prior run ins ,he knew that .rabbi katz lied and they kept the uncle over shabbos even though rabbi katz knew he would miss kaddish.hashem yerachem on label.The uncle was found innocent and even Jacob Kazt's own lawyer said jacob katz lied.this was done even as raizy moskowitz was there to hear it all and not say anything.

 

lets see.
rabbi katz has a school for russian children ,and collects hundreds of thousands of dollars by the dinners and then closes the school.where is the momen "hekdesh"?
he has a school on east 17,east 19 coney island ave.,ocean ave. ,65 street,67 street 56 street,52 street. he sells 52 st. , sells 56 st. ,sells east 19 st. sells 65 st. where did all the momen "hekdesh" go? Please clarify- Is Chasdei Torah, Kidushas Hatorah, Khal Zichron Yosef all one organization?

 

who has the chutzpah to say something like ,iif you do not to meet your father then do tzuvah?their father was a kodesh,you must be from the label goons.did label do the dr. korvorkan on purpose?shame on you label katz children.

 

label katz has a new agenda and its taking away children in devorce cases annd helping them go to their fathers care as long as they give money to his pocket i mean school

 

thats not new>i know cases where label guarranteed kallahs that their cassanim where ok but when the marriages failed quickly label said i must admit i can not get involved because the parents of the chassanim give me money

 

why is raizy moskowitz katz threatening a witness>does she know what happens if you threaten people or does she think she is above the law >or is she so desperate and know what can happen to her son for falsely having an uncle arrested

 

lets see .aron katz works for label.joseph katz is on label chevra kadisa and avery weinschneider is a board of director in the school.smell conspiracy?

 

It pains me to write this email. However being a realitive of Chaniana Katz I must be clear and Forth coming. Chanina you do not get it. You think your intimidation, Your threats, Your Threatining Phone Calls will scare us to keep quiet. Chanina you are not a hurtful man or a harmful man. You are a sick Dimented man. You want to play hard ball. Lets play.

Questions remain.
Facts Yitzzy Katz was killed by a hit and run accident in the early 1990. They never found the guy. Was Chanina Katz Involved in the Murder or Not?? Did chanina Katz owe to much money to someone and that person took Revenge or not on his nephew??? or not??? Or Did chanina Katz have his nephew Yitzzy katz Taken out because he knew a bit to much about Fairmont?? or not???
Yitzzy Katz Was fired from Fairmont shortly before he was killed ? is that true or not???

I guess We will get Clarity when wee talk to Mr. Choen.

Facts-- Chanina Katz is a very succesful Business man. Words cannot express how well he has done. just go by the Sky Mall that he spent 10 years accumilating the most amazing garbage dump and 1906 trains going back and forth. Security is tight but you may go by this sky mall on the 61 street tracks and take a look at the amazing mall that he borrowed every last penny of his brothers and then went into i believe chapter 7 or 11.


these are clear Facts Chanina katz got his umemployed brothers
Avi and David to threaten the Rav Label in his shul use phisical Force at Rav label Threaten his brothers nieces and Nephews. Charlie you are a fat Coward. You tough guy hiding behind your mentally retarted brother david.

Your wonderful Plan of trying to have Yanky Aressted and you trying ruin shaindy simcha. It back Fired right in your fat Egos Face.

However let this not be a threat but the most stern warning to you and your jobless animals. We are done playing. You can threaten us, Scare us and he even try to hurt us. However we are are not afraid one bit.

Let me be very clear-- The FBI does not take well to Mortgage Fraud, Laundering Money, and I am sure they are not very comfortable with killers walking the street. According to my information,
Giving the FBI Current and former employees willing to sing the Great Praises of Chanina katz and fairmont to the FBI is very much what they are looking for.

Chanina we have everything we need that if you dont stop you will be writing along with your close nit family /blogs from an 8 by 10 cell.
We have thousands of Documents on you and your very ehrlich close mishpacha. We have more information on you than you can remember the sick sick things what you have done over the last 18 years.we have Copies everywhere. Yes we even have copies at a vault in a bank ad no itis not one of the banks you used to play your sick schemes.Yes the bank is in the US. i learned a new law recently the statues of limitation does not apply to murder.

Rav label Katz;s yeshiva was robbed We have who came in on Video Tape, Rav label Said on no Cercumstances his he putting his brothers in Jail. We listened to the rov.We waited patiently thinking we would keep giving you chances. Your day has come. Let me be clear Again if you do not stop your threats intimidation and all your ilegel Garbage. I promise you the FBI will have it stopped. THE GAME IS OVER. THE gloves are off. We are no longer going to hold back the information we have on you for the terrible illegal Activity and horrible things you have done and caused. I would hope you beg for forgiveness and stop NOW.

Remeber you have a kid to marry off and a wife at home. Visitation rights are not flexible where you would be going

 

Mr. weinshneider is a loser. i know him from a long while ago,chicago days, he just can't say a straight word.

 

i have been following the blog for the last week. i truly must say that was from the most stupid emails yet. As someone who personally knows Chanina katz, i can strongly say that he is a stand up person, a big mentch and would help another person with anything-NEVER anything false.

It looks like label and co. you are scraping the bottom of a barrel,you are fishing for anything.have some dignity and start apolagising to everone.

Those items above NEVER occured, He's a great developer and great business person.

 

RABBI LABEL KATZ IS A TZADDIK.PERHAPS ONE OF THE FEW RABBONIM IN THE WORLD THAT TRULLY HAS BACKBONE.RABBI KATZ DOES MORE MITZVOS IN A DAY THAN MOST OF US DO IN A YEAR.HIS AHAVS YISROEL HIS PSOKIM HIS EHRLECHKEIT ARE STELLAR.

ALL THESE ANONYMUS VILE LOW LIFES WRITING GARBAGE ABOUT THIS TZADIK ARE GOOING TO HAVE TO GIVE DIN VCHESHBON

I PERSONALY SPOKE WITH RAV DOVID ABUCHATZIRA PERHAPS THE GREATEST MEKUBAL ALIVE TODAY WHO TOLD ME THAT RAV KATZ IS A "ODOM GODOL"

ITS EASY TO WRITE AND POLLOUTE THE WEB WITH LIES AND SHMUTZ LETSEE ONE OF YOU PEOPLE PUT THEIRE ANME AND PHOEN NUMBER TO THE COMMENT

I WILL GIVE YOU TEN PEOPLEWHO WILL GIVE EYDUS TO RABBI KATZS TZIDKUS FOR EVERY PERSONE WILLING TO RENT A NAME AND MAKE UP LIES AGAINS HIM

SHAME ON YOU!

 

I am someone who used to daven in R'katz shul. I since moved to another part of brooklyn. I am appaled to what has happened with R'katz. He used to have a close relationship with his brother Chanina who has helped the shul financially as well as give positive energy to the shul and it's congregants. He went to another shul to daven with his Father at the 16th avenue agudah for he felt this is a great mitzvah.
R'katz trying to link himself now to Yossi and Avery is bazarre, they have only been trouble for him.
He should stop this, especially in pulic, for a rav this a disgrace. The shul knows he is behind this and does not know how to react.

We hope he practices what he speaks.

 

if laibel can see he is not getting anywhere let him at least make a out of "COURT" deal or something.

 

i am not sure what agenda some people here have.how can one judge rav label if one has not spoken with him?are we foolish enough to have a opionon on this matter without knowing the details?

amazing how so many gedolim of today speak of rav katz so highly and yet some anonymus blogger fustrated by life and bored by unemployment venture to talk againt a talmid chochom with no fear.

perhaps it would be worthwhile to mention some gedolim and rabonim who have such respect for rav katz

Rav Aron Shteyman

rav gisinger

r dovod abuchatzira

rav chaim kanyevsky

reb dovid feinstein

i guess in a lil while we will start reading shmutz about them too??

whne a rov paskens and deals with diney momons and nefoshos there will always be a party that will leave unhappy-that is undersatndble however to go from there to lies loshon hora and rechilus is wrong unfair and unjust

yes chevra before you respond with more dirt think for a moment..........

Oseh sholom Bimeromov

 

MA TOIVU OHELECHA YAKOV MISHKINISECHA YISROEL........

IS THAT WEINSHNEIDER GUY STILL THE LOLLIPOP MAN ????????

I DONT KNOW THAT MUCH OF WHAT IS GOING ON THIS BLOG BUT I DO LIKE ALL THE WONDERFUL PSUKIM BEING POSTED IT IS REALLY INSPIRING !

I DOUBT VERY HIGHLY ANY OF THOSE RABBONIM ACTUALLY KNOW THIS RABBI KATZ WHOEVER HE IS IF HE COULD EVEN BE MENTIONED ON THIS TYPE OF SITE THEN AGAIN IT COULD BE THE RABBI DEFENDING HIMSELF AND WRITING DOWN ALL THE RABONIM HE EVER HEARD OF !!

AS AN OUTSIDER Y'ALL VERY ENTERTAINING !!
OH AND WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS RABBI KATZ 'S SHUL ANYWAY?

 

Rumor has it that Avery Weinshneider is upset, that he is only known as the lolli man He is said to have Choo Choos and winkies also.
He is full service!

 

do not mention those gedolim in the same breath as label.you tried this trick before and you know the answers you got from these gedolim.some did not even know him and some say something happened to him.

 

It is funny that you mention rav shteiman.he may know of label.check the godols latest article where rav shteirman ,shlita writes,those rabonim who involve themselves in machlokos and say its lashem shamoyim and momen hekdesh should daven very well for themselves before the new year.

 

something would happen to you too, if your brother was mi-anes you!!

 

what next will this low life blame on charlie.i am suprised he did not blame nine eleven on him.

 

the jury is still out!

 

i heard that charlie couldn't get the mortagage for the twin towers, and that's why he orchestrated 9/11!!
maybe he thought all those people that died, knew some secrets like yitzzy katz!
shocking that the FBI hasn't caught onto it yet!

 

where did the jury go?

 

its always interesting to see the response of people once you mention names

yes every one of these rabbonim mentioned knows rav label katz

i chalenge any of you to show otherwise.but as i said the nest step for people energized by kina and sinah will be to find fault with the rabbonim mentioned

with regards to the post that claims "there must be something to it" if reb label appears on a blog i remind him of the rashi that says Moshe rabeynu walked around without pockets in his clothes so people should not accuse him of stealing from the MISHKON!!!!!

if it could happn to moshe rabeynu it could happend to reb lable.......

 

????
What is the R'katz talking about?
Does he always self promote himsef?

Those emails just don't make any sense.

 

Can you prove that these rabonim know R' Katz?
as someone observing from the outside, WHY does everything look like a challeng or competition to R'Katz and his gang.
i find this interesting.

 

Are these people totally crazy?
Are they comparing label katz to Moshe Rabeynu??

How far can a group push the envelope?

 

why does every "outsider" attack rabbi katz?

it is simpla and quaint to tell rabbonim never to be involved in a machlokes, but it is also simplistic. you can't be a leader without detractors. whether you are pinchos hacohen, the rambam, the malbim, the chofetz chaim or rav shach, you will necessarily be involved in dispute. and no, i am not comparing anyone to these rabbonim. however, machlokes l'shem mitzvah is as old as history. further, "turning the other cheek is antithetical to yahadus" -it simply allows the avaryan to harm other people.

lastly, for all the people who have attacked rabbi katz, i assure you they never heard his side of the story because he has never given it. he refuses to be involved in this loshon horah. it wouldn't hurt for the rest of us to take a lesson.

 

ITS GOTTA MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD WHEN YOU SEE THAT EVEN THE BOTTOM OF THE BARREL AWAKENS WHEN YOU MENTION MOSHE RABBEYNU

BUT AS CHAZAL SAY "RESHOIM AFILU AL PISCHO SHEL GENHINOM EYNOM CHOZRIM"NOTHING WILL HELP RESHOIM NOTHING WILL HELP PEOLE WHOSE ENTIRE LIFE IS MADE UP OF SITTING ON THE WEB AND BLOGGING UNDER FICTICOUS NAMES CUZ THEY AHVENT THE GUTS TO SHOW THEIRE FACE AND PUT A COMMENT TO A NAME

AND AS FAR THE "TAM" WHO FINDS IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A ROV WOULD BE EMBROLIED IN A MCHLOIKES

I THOUGH THAT IN JEWSIH CONVERSION CLASSES THEY TAUGHT SOME HISTORY AND TALMUD EVER HEARD OF RAV AKIVA EYGER EVER HEARD OF THE GEDOILM IN EVERY GENRATION BEING INVLOVED IN CASES AND MACHLOKES?

A ROV OF CALLIBER AND STANDARD LIKE RAV KATZ WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO DEAL WITH MACHLOKES

WHILE ITS TRUE THAT IT IS SAD THAT SUCH A FAMILY DISPUTE IS SAD ITS SADER THAT PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT NOTHING WOULD GIVE THEIRE TAKE ON THINGS AND IN SO DOING BE MEVAZE A TALMID CHAOCHOM

I REMIND YOU OF THE GEMARA "TALMID CHOCHOM SHEMOCHAL AL KEVODO EYN KEVODO MOCHU"

Y DONT U WHO SEEM TO LIVE ON HATRED AND VILICAFTION OF THIS CHOSUVE ROV NOT JUST CALL A PARTY ON YOM KIPPUR AFTERNNON SERVE CHIKEN FROM THE STORE IN MONSEY AND WRITE CHEKS FROM THE MORGAGE HOUSE IN BORO PARK AND SMOKE WEED WHILE URE AT IT CUZ


YOM KIPPUR IS MECHAPER ON ALL OF THAT BUT IT WILL NEVER BE MECHAPER FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THIS CHOSHUVE ROV!!!!!!

 

Which idiot compared moshe rabeynu to r'label ? first of all why would u put such a holy name on this site (and i dont mean this label guy ) oh and by the way who is this lolli dude winshneider ? what does he do for a living? where does he live ??/// i never heard of him !!

 

Haha! How humorous!
label - the only moshe you should be concerned with right now, is with your father zt"l, who sits and weeps every day seeing the macholekes that you've created!
maybe you should start following the middos of moshe rabeynu's brother, ahron haKohen, who was an OHEV SHALOM and RODEF SHALOM!!
Before rosh hashanah, this is the only thing to do!

 

BACK TO THIS REAL GENIUS WHO KEEPS ON ANSWERING USING ALL THESE CHOSHEVE GEDOLEI HADOR : THE NEXT TIME YOU LOOK AT THAT WONDERFUL SEFER THAT YOU MUST OF HAD TO READ TO POST ON THIS BLOG THOSE GEDOLIM WERE INVOLVED IN "ENDING " MACHLOKES NOT INVOLVED IN "STARTING " IT AND THEN TRYING TO HIDE BY THE FAMOUS ITS "LESHAIM SHOMAYIM ". THIS "leshaim shomayim"and" Mamon Hekdesh " is real comical who does this rabbi think hes fooling ?!does he think everyone believes him no people feel sorry for him . leshaim shomayim is the classic claim that all those chosheve gedolim have screamed for generations not to hide behind so next time you open that sefer with all those gedolim READ WHATS IN IT NOT JUST WHO WROTE it.

 

I think this weinshneider character's real name is weiss. I think he has a front, I mean store, in the diamond district. Why he calls himself weiss I am not so sure.

 

raizy moskowitz katz types very well.she can type what label tells her.i can not wait till label compares himself to avrohom aveinu

 

did you hear the latest?charlie katz not only controls the courts and bais din but the rumor in meridian funding is that he also contols the f.b.i. ask jacob katz at meridian funding

 

Reading this blogg...it is evident that both sides of the family are wonderful people, it is a shame that during a fight both sides look dirty, but it is obvious that many people love each side of the family. Tichleh Hashana V'killoseha, may the curse of this public machlokes cease and may each side realize that they don't want to hurt each other. Bring peace amongst yourselves so that you can live a peaceful life.

 

may your words be listened to and may both sides just wish each other a kaseva vachashima tova and may they continue their fathers legacy.

 

to ALL you people out there who live for gossip.......many of you at one point in your life has asked rav Label Katz hilchos teharas hamishpacha or marriage questions im sure so for that hes good, but can you honestly believe that he would steal????? noone and i repeat none of you know the details behind the scene so how can any of us judge? charlie does have strength koach hadibur its just a shame he uses his BIGmouth for the wrong things... when he'll fall so will have of klal yisroel just like korach

 

as a close relation to the family let me give you some info... david you think you give hashgacha you are missing many screws and noone should trust him.. he followed a relative of mine who lost a child like she doesnt have her own problems... during shiva Avi is busy taking pictures of people on his parents porch..david pushed RAV label at a kiddush in ashul...david makes harrassing phone calls to his sibling at 2 am...at a relatives pidyon haben they have a relative arrested....haha they got the wron person how dumb they looked...so to all of you out there i bet you didnt know this info... still want to judge??????

 

TO ALL OF YOU PEOPLE POSTING THESE COMMENTS
GET A REAL LIFE & STOP WASTEING YOU'RE TIME WITH THIS NONSENSE

 

To the post at 11 and 11:29. I am not related but I DO know the facts. I have seen the facts. While I am very supportive of Rav Label, I cannot support your rant. It is against halacha and it is obviously against the wishes of Rav Label who has steadfastly refused to discuss details with people who have inquired. If your rant leads to negative responses from either side, the Ribbono Shel Olam will hold YOU responsible. I assure you, no hatzlocha will come to you, your family or klal yisroel from the dissemination of loshon horah. And every momenty you are kovesh your yetzer will bring nachas to the Ribbono Shel Olam. Let the process work itself out and there will be an amicable resolution, IY'H.

 

It's time to search for Rabbonim like Rav Pam A"H. I doubt anyone has a single factual negative word about Rav Pam. The Rav Pam types are there! We can judge who the great ones are by the style in which they live (not ostentatious) and the way they behave (with modesty- not looking for Kavod or glory of any kind), just looking to be Oved Hashem.
There are very ethical, sincere and fine Rabbonim worthy of being role models, just as there are sincere, fine judges, lawyers and other professionals- although they usually don't end up as famous as the others.
Rav Pam would have forfeited anything and everything to keep out of scandals like this.

 

I was also was a supporter of rabbi label katz but I must tell you i have always admired charlie katz as being not only an honest buisnessman but also a man with a big heart.he not only helped myself and my family but thousands of others.I must say when you look at both sides of the dispute,its a no brainer which side has the more menchen on their side.TO rabbi label ,you really put a damper on my spirits before the yom hadin .please apologize now before the yom hadin,to your father and say you regret that you ever said that your father was insane for the last 40 years.you can tell your brothers yossi and aron and your sister chany to also ask forgiveness and may hashem grant the whole katz mishpacha arechas yomim till 120.

 

To the post at 11 on Sep 14 TRust me anyone that has ever asked the"rav"any sheilos must be reasking and if kosher chickens can be treif this "rav " can be capable of anything and to say all of klal yisroel will fall is nuts like the 4 people that pretend to care about this nonsense is the whole klal ?!

 

Questions for Erev Rosh Hashonah
1. What side continues to blog this loshon horah?
2. What side refers to the other as a gang?
3. What side mentions all the members of the opposing group and even some of their spouses and children, thereby increasing loshon horah?
4. Why does EVERY "outside" and "mutual" perspective support the same side?
5. What won't yom kippur be mechaper?

 

Is it true that Rav Label will be taking over Shomrei Emunah?

 

To even put rabbi pam a'h and the other gedolim in the same sentence as label is a tragedy.this is 'global and new bomshell'is a joke.i think they should lay low and tell their family to not publisize their embarasment,and let rabbi moshe katz a'h leggacy continue.

 

to all f us reading these blogs...god help us all!!! reading so much lashon harah is just terrible especially since the yom hadin is approaching.... for the time that we read this junk say a perek of tehillim for all the REAL SICK PEOPLE... its not our job to decide who is right and who is wrong the truth will come out i"h and thats when we"ll know the story...3 sides to every story his hers and the truth... mr and mrs katz a"h may you daven for shalom umong your children and the klal

 

is klal yisroel going to be again entertained this shabbos shuva whith
another "rain or shine" speach??
or now that the truth is out there are no listeners or believers in that baloney.
but its still a good show or lets say front.

 

There are many very scrupulous and less than scrupulous Rabbonim, all over who will IYH be giving Drashos. Often its the Rabbonim's wives that lead or encourage them towards dishonesty and greed. If we look at who the Rov chose for a wife, we can gain insight into who/what the Rov really is.

 

I have a scoop.rabbi label katz will be speaking about only having jewish wills,momen hekdesh ,kebud av vaaim and of course only shalom.

 

THE LAST EIGHT NEGATIVE POSTINGS ALL FROM ONE SIDE.

IS THIS A CONTEST TO SEE WHOSE TEFILLOS WON'T BE ANSWERED????

 

i have a better scoop.rabbi label katz will be speaking about the importance of pidyun schvuin and on the importance of writing a sefer torah

 

re:"THE LAST EIGHT NEGATIVE POSTINGS ALL FROM ONE SIDE".

If you can be so sure, its possibly because you've written all the others.

 

is this rabbi katz speaking about ,'we will see whose tefilos will be answered'.does he now think that he is partners with the riboneh shel olam?i would not like to be in his shoes.remember there is time to retract your statement about your father.repent together with your gang

 

I could write that you guys are all a bunch of idiots. But I have tact. Here we go.

1.Why are you on this website?

This website serves as a useful tool to anonymously vent loshon horo and motzi shem rah. It's better than therapy.

2.Why do you discuss something that you are not directly related to?

People thrive on knowledge, being right, and taking sides. that being a fact, we can understand why people wish to know all details, and fight for whats, in their opinion, right.

3.Don't you have anything better to write about?

An article-based site, like most, needs a scoop. once that is established, the above occurs.

4. Whats to be done?

Using the facts above, form a conclusion. I want to see improvement in the next few posts. Good Luck!

 

TEN IN A ROW AND COUNTING!!!
TIME TO LIGHT THE FIRES!!!!! YOU FOOLS-I'M NOT PICKING SIDES-I DON'T NEED TO!! I'M THE FIREMAN!!!!

 

wishing all of us people reading the l;ashon harah a happy and healthy year may we have a year of shalom umongst the klal.. no ine knows the right or wrong side only hashem.. best of luck mr. fireman this might be a fire out of your control!!!

 

To all you non believers out there i heard that label katz will be aking mecilah in public at his drasha this year look who has the real middos now

 

interesting thought.....isnt Rabbi pesach korb part of beis din then why does he not encourage his "rebbitzen" to rectify this situation there. (not that all batei dayanim are straight) im sure that Rav Label someone so rodeph shalom tried to have dayanim help this machlokes...the only thing i can think of is that charlie and his chaburah refuse to go because they have something to hide.... why else would they not want to go?????????????

 

Believe me, i keep trying to put out the fire but "side a" gives a backhanded compliment about the shabbos shuva drasha and "side b" decides to add more names and batei din in general to the mix.

I GUESS ITS TIME TO SHOVEL MORE COAL. IT'S GONNA BE A SCORCHER!!

 

mr. fireman,i am a volunteer fireman,and the best way to put out a fire is with loly pops.please ask avery weinschneider, he has alot of them.

 

mr.fireman,maybe you can use rabbi label tears from rosh hashanah,but he still has not ask mechila about what he said about his father ,in our shul yet

 

please do not throw those lolies in the fire.i heard thats why people come to the shul to lick such expensive lolies.

 

Will you all stop with the lolies already.until you taste them ,do not mock them .They serve a purpose.

 

the point of the lolies is to shut all of your BIG mouths dont you think ???? anyway i heard Rav Labels speach on shabbos was not about what you all thought its just a shame you didnt go because u could of used an uplifting speach about tefillah. go pray to hashem for forgiveness on all the loshan horah that you speak .. hope he can forgive u....
P.S. Rav Label does not need in my eyes to ask forgiveness it might be YOU who need to ask him forgiveness...

 

I was there and got by the body guards.was it raining ?or else what was the excuse for the small crowd.

 

I heard he ,label,made it mandetory for his relatives and school, all 20 of them,to come to the sermon

 

I thought you said that label would ask mechila by his drasha?all he said was I ,I,I,and I do not lie on shabbos.

 

i guess you heard wrong mr. blogger. i go to rav labels yeshiva and no it was NOT mandatory.( by the way when you write 20 boys, its not the quantity of the boys its the quality, i guess you werent zocheh to be part of us) if i was there its because i wanted to be there. mr. blogger who thinks that all rav label said was I you must be hearing impaired or something.

 

Any updates?

 

Reading the falseness on both sides, the distorted verbage, wrong ideas, it shocking that any frum jew comment on such a site about such people. Mi keamcha yisroel. We dont have much time in this world: max 120 years to accomplish, to succeed & grow in ruchnius. Let's all focus on our relationship between us & hakodush baruch hu. Let'l all learn a lesson about sincere frumkeit & priorities, the importance of conveying the beauty of yiddishkeit, the essential aspect of family values, the target goal of being mekadesh shem shemayim. May the entire katz family & all of klal yisroel only continue to grow towards shalom & serenity. May hashem shower you all with the ratzon to be a positive influence on each other and may all you be zocheh to much mazal & bracha in all that you pursue. 120 years max for all of us: let's take advantage of growing bederech hatorah.

 

Can you imagine the cries in shemaying, the heart renching tears flowing down the cheeks from the parents of then ten k"H. Do each one of you think of the ramifications of your DAILY actions and decisions. Hashem yerachem! May you all leave your derachim & start from new. Each day is a new tomorrow. It is never too late to repent & do teshuva. May hashem take pride in all your actions!

 

i am a person who has direct knowledge of the katz dispute and i have no allegiance to either side whatsoever. the only fact that is known for sure and is clear as day is that "LIBEL" KATZ is a worthless money grubbing pig who has no regard for anyone or anything but the almighty dollar

 

THE last poster could not have said any better label katz is all about the money . he has had numerous buildings for his so called yeshivas and sold them! he has had fights over his land in the cementery which he owns! he owns a 2 million dollar house in bp. and is always counting his money and everyone elses. he is worth about 10 million dollars and hes fighting over pennies! hashem yerachem.the yetzer hora obviously is something he cant overcome!

 

what everyone really wants to know is what is this fight about? what could have possably torn this family apart? although everyones gut reaction is to think it is about money. it wouldn't make any sence that rav label would start all this for money. since it is well known that his father didn't have any besides for his house which he owned in boro park, it is also common knowledge by now that his will divides his estate evenly amongst his ten children. so why don't you rav label or which ever one of your kids is filling up this blog with stupid comments about ur brothers. just come out and say why you started this fight!

 

if it's not true what they're saying about label then why did he start this fight?

 

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Don't worry about the weather turning cold. Where you're going-you won't even feel it!!

Hatzlocha rabbah in your next life

 

I AM NOT SAYING LABEL OR HIS BROTHERS ARE RIGHT.I KNOW THE ENTIRE FAMILY FOR CLOSE TO 30 YEARS AND I CAN SAY THE KATZ FAMILY IS A VERY BALBATISH FAMILY. AS FAR AS LABEL HE IS A RUF AND A POSIK. HE GETS UP AND SPEAKS FOR 400 PEOPLE IN SHALOM BAIS WHY DOES HE NOT MAKE SHALOM IN HIS OWN FAMILY, PLEASE EVERYONE FORGET ABOUNT THE MONEY HIS FATHER LEFT. ITS A HOUSE ON 51 ST WHICH IS WORTH AROUND 1.2 MILLION AND AROUND 200,000.00 IN CASH TOTAL 1.4 MILLION DIVIDED BY 10 IS AROUND 140,000.00 FOR EACH CHILD.RAV LABEL IS A VERY GREETY PERSON I KNOW IT. I FEEL AS I WROTE HE SHOULD OF PUT ALL THE MONEY TO THE SIDE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE FAMILY IS IN CIVIL PEACE.I RESPECT EVERYONE BUT I DONT RESPECT A PERSON LIKE LABLL KATZ WHO IS A FAILER IN HIS YESHIVA AND WANTS THE MONEY FOR A YESHIVA THAT FAILED. HE IS A NICE PERSON FORM THE OUTSIDE BUT INSIDE HE IS VERY GREETY. I HEARD HE IS TAKING HIS OLD GABY MR SUSMAN TO COURT. HE IS TAKING EVERYONE TO COURT. WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH HIM.
I HOPE HE WILL COME TO HIS SENSES THAT LIFE IS SHORT AND HE SHOULD MAKE UP WITH HIS 6 BOTHERS AND 4 SISITERS THAT ARE ALL FINE PEOPLE.

 

I don't know anybody in the family. However, it is clear to me that even if LABLL is a a GREETY RUF (not Dennis the Menace's dog) and POSIK and a FAILER, and a nice person only FORM the outside, you are somewhere between an imbecile and a moron. Maybe a little school wouldn't have killed you. I bet you can't spell Right Guard either!! Please post in english in the future.

 

isn't it true that label who went to court after refusing to go to beis din lost on every account??

 

WHATS STILL GOING ON IN THE FAMILY IS A TRAGEDY. ALL THE BROTHERS ARE UPSET,FRUSTATRATED, FROM ALL THIS NON SENSE. SOMEONE SHOULD SIT DOWN WITH HIM AND TALK TO HIM AND EXPLAIN THAT THIS HAS TO END. I TELL YOU I HAVE SEEN AVI,CHANNIE,AND 2 OTHER BROTHERS THEY ALL GAINED ALOT OF WEIGHT FROM AGGRAVATION. MR SENIOR KATZ WAS A GENTLEMENT A MAN THAT ALWAYS AD A SMILE. THE LAST TIME I SEW THE OLD MAN WAS AROUND 4 MONTHS BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY AND HE WAS BY HIM SELF. OLABEL SAID HIS FATHER WAS NOT A HIS RIGHT MIND. ITS ALL A LIE.

 

"THE last poster could not have said any better label katz is all about the money . he has had numerous buildings for his so called yeshivas and sold them! he has had fights over his land in the cementery which he owns! he owns a 2 million dollar house in bp. and is always counting his money and everyone elses. he is worth about 10 million dollars and hes fighting over pennies! hashem yerachem.the yetzer hora obviously is something he cant overcome!"
He lives with his Shver, but yes, he IS greedy. Atleast he stayed in peace with the Wife, Shver and Shvigger and chose to fight with everyone else. Let's be Melamed the One Z'chus we know of!

 

I came upon this site and I am mortified by all the evil gossip. It is a TREMENDOUS SIN to talk about other people. Before you go rationalizing this evil behavior by making up excuses that this is permissible for whatever irrational thoughts go ask a Gadol (not a reform one!)about the situation/gossip you feel the urgent necessity to shout out to the world. Lashon Hara is an evil sin that causes Hashem not to answer our prayers. In addition, after you are Niftar(got to be blunt and honest because you will get there at some point or another) you will have many evil speaking malachim talk about you at your court case. These are the Malachim created by your Lashon Hara. I am not interested in the controversial (as is noted on this site) family private problem. This is not Hollywood where everyones family Tzaros get publicly displayed. In the merit of observing the Halochos of Shemiras Halashom, may Hashem answer of cries and prayers and bring the Geulah Shelama Beyameinu.

 

G-D FORBID TO SPEAK ABOUT A JEW THIS WAY - IS IT RIGHT TO JUDGE OTHERS???? THIS WAY WHOEVER IS MAKABELL THIS IS A SINNER!!!!!!!!!

 

I don't have a dog in this fight and am barely religious anymore. But I will say this: Back in 1986, when I got married, I attended RLK's Class for Chassonim. He told us to give him our wedding ma'aser money, which I dutifully did -- especially after he said that he'll always be there if we have any problems.

When big problems came up and the marriage was on the rocks, I gave him a call. He said he'd try to squeeze me for a few minutes in as he had to go to the country. That was bad enough. But I still recall, clearly, his palatial home and his condescending manner. And in the end, he made things much worse.

Sad but true.

 

7/28/09 - I have been in RLK's home one time. His "palace" is one floor in a three-family house. Your standards for living quarters must not be very high. In addition, RLK is always home for shabbos. I find it hard to believe you could not find an opportunity to meet with him. How accessible were you?

 

I HEARD THE MISHKON LOCKED OUT RABBI LABEL KATZ.

 

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