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Saturday, November 04, 2006

Heimishe pervert Bocher strikes again

The Heimishe pervert Bocher that started up with a Yingerman last week offered two dollars to a nine-year-old boy to follow him somewhere. The Bocher tried to lure the kid to some location by telling him that he was a Shomrim member and that he needed help with something. He told the kid that if he went along with him he would give him two dollars.

Please warn your children about this pervert. If he approaches your child call 911 immediately. He has a criminal record and has been arrested before and should be taken off the streets. He is about 6' 2", weighs about 180 pounds. He has longish brown hair a brown beard and has long payos hanging down behind his ears. He does not wear glasses. He is very gutsy and will approach a child even in the vicinity of their parent. Do not hesitate to call Police if you see this pervert.

If you have any pictures of this pervert or others upload them to a free no-registration photo hosting site such as http://www.tinypic.com/ and post the link here.

Pictures will not be posted until they have been reviewed and verified.

Comments:
Since you are so good with taking pictures, why dont show us a picture

 

I've seen him around. He has blue eyes, he hung around monsey for a while. I wish some of the community leaders would tell us what to do when we see him. He is noticably ill.
Should we call the shomrim? 911?

 

Im not sure if this is the same guy but we had one of those in lakewood....I have a picture of the guy-please post an email that i can send it to for confirmation.

 

does he have some sort of speach problem? or maybe a nervous twitch with his eyes??

Confirmation anybody??

 

Yes he has a nervous twitch.

He is quite tall. Some days he seems more normal then others, perhaps because of medication. I saw him last in Shomer shabbos in BP on tuesday.

 

Your description is awful. W

hat do you want us to do, call the cops everytime with see a big smelly chussid with a big belly, that has brown hairm and puts his payos behind his ears?

 

the guy i see sometimes in lakewood is not that tall-i will not post his pic in that site based on my perception of the guy as being BAD.... He hangs around kids in the park and is allways asking people for attention.

I think he is bad but have no proof.

If someone can verify his pic-provide an email and ill send it to you. I rather not post this guy all over the internet if he is innocent.

 

Call Shomrim (718-871-6666) if you see him.

If he breaks the law, then you can call 911. You cannot call 911 to report a "pervert" if you are not the victim or witness.

-Israel

 

His name is Henoch Silber(from Israel) he is a grandson of 1 of the big litvishe roshe yeshivos in bnei brak. he is very very dangerous. I bumped in to him this friday night on Ave F in Kensington even though he knows that I will ignore him or throw out of our area, he did not hesitate to ask me if he could eat by me. He will target boys or girls any age from a baby to a married person. if you see him throw him out of your shul or neighborhood. I'm suprised he is still around in the USA with all the kids and bochurim that he had or tried molested. why don't the askonim try to depart back to israel. if any body has more details about him or know why his still roaming our streets or if you have an idea how to get him out of here ..PLEASE POST. I'm very intrested in getting rid of him

 

when did this story happen?

 

he happens to him a gradson of the rosh yeshiva Rabbi Silber from bnei brak

 

how do we get rid of him?

 

why call shomrin when u see him?

 

do u know if the pepole from the 2 stories posted or other of his victims are willing to tastify against him?

 

If you're talking about the guy I think you're talking about. He was hanging around Crown Heights at one point too. He also speaks both english and Hebrew well.

 

ABOUT TIME WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS "MENUVAL"

 

I had this guy over at my place one night, he didn't try anything so I have no basis for these accusations other than speculation, rumors and his WEIRDNESS.

If anyone has any first-hand stories about him, please share it with us. and what.

Profile:
Age 25 (?)
Height 6'2 (approx)
Weight 180lbs (approx)
Hair color (brown) overgrown
Beard (brown)No trimming or shaving
He wears soiled cloths always looking slightly disheveled, smells like he doesn't shower, speaks English with a noticeable Israeli accent, has an eye twitch,

PS. if you are going to post that someone is dangerous please post your reasoning

 

i know him weel he used to hang out in stulawits in lakewood. recently i see him by shomer shabbos at night on the side walk. he is a smart fellow and knows alot about computers and thats how he starts alot of his conversations. he has a little of an israeli acsent.

 

he has a long rekel (jacket) and smells like he could use a shower hes a rachmonos dont harm him just send him back to israel

 

How do we know he is a danger to children? Is there proof or just gossip?

I remember in boro park there were guy Yankal Ferfercorn, all the kids were scared of him, but it was because he was different, he was never a threat. He was a nebuch case.

Maybe he is asking to eat by you because he is lonely and has no where to go?

If he does have a problem, the community should work to find the appropriate place for him to get help, not run him out of town.

 

all of you asking how do we know he is dangerous a molester, mabey yoyu forgot on what story you are posting a comment please read the story and then ask yourself the question. This blog is telling a story that happend A FACT !!!

 

we should never ever have rachmanis on him, just wait until your kids are his victim will see how much rachmanis you display. because a diffrent kid was his victim not yours we should have rachmanis?

 

IF YOUR NOT 100 PERCENT SHURE TAKE HIM TO YOUR HOUSE YOU WILL FIND OUT THE HARDWAY. IF YOU HAVE A "SOFUK" THEN BE MACHMIR. ALL THE RABANIM IN OUR TIMES AGREE THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF A MOLESTER IS BY TAKING HARSH & LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THEM.

 

every body knows.from BP to Monsey, Lakewood that he is a molester. you see that evrey body on this blog from all cities identified the same person. because you don't know why make him kosher if anything take the side of the once claiming that he is a molester. in life you alaways try to stickup for victim...get your facts straight.

 

He is right you have to put him away for some reason he thrown out from most shuls in bp. Nobody acusses me and you for molesting pepole, I wonder why only him?

 

I REALLY CANT UNDERSTAND HOW PEPOLE CAN TRY TO MAKE HIM CLEAN......READ THIS TWO STORIES THAT JUST HAPPEND LAST WEEK....THESE ARE HIS DAILY ROTIUNES

 

Was there penetration?Remember,no penetration, no molestation.
A psak from ___________.

 

The New York State Mental Hygiene Law has procedures for both involuntary commitment and outpatient treatment. A neighborhood need not wait for a crime to happen before an obviously deranged individual is removed from the streets. It should not be too difficult to begin such a legal proceeding against this man, particularly if it is true that he has an arrest record. The child victims who have been accosted by this man, and any other witnesses, can sign affidavits in support of the petition to commit this man for mental treatment. I strongly suggest that all concerned citizens get on the phone to Agudath Israel whose in house lawyers should be able to do something about this problem. People should also call Project OHEL, which has an in house sex offender treatment.

 

The New York State Mental Hygiene Law has procedures for both involuntary commitment and outpatient treatment. A neighborhood need not wait for a crime to happen before an obviously deranged individual is removed from the streets. It should not be too difficult to begin such a legal proceeding against this man, particularly if it is true that he has an arrest record. The child victims who have been accosted by this man, and any other witnesses, can sign affidavits in support of the petition to commit this man for mental treatment. I strongly suggest that all concerned citizens get on the phone to Agudath Israel whose in house lawyers should be able to do something about this problem. People should also call Project OHEL, which has an in house sex offender treatment.
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agudah? you must be kidding.
Aguda is still shtooping the torah temima sex scandel under the carpert. why would they help with this molester?

 

Agudah?!? They are busy preparing their convention attack on bloggers who have the nerve to expose chashuve mechanchim who like little boys. We can't bother Zwiebel with this petty nonsense. CALL THE POLICE!

 

I'm the guy who posted the comment about remedies under the State Mental Hygiene Law for getting the bad guy off the street, without waiting for the next crime to occur. To the poster who made the cynical comment about Aguda sweeping things under the rug, I would say that cynicism in a situation such as this will get you nowhere. I'm not even going to address what you said, because this is a pikuach nefesh situation, period. If the Aguda lawyers don't want to handle the situation themselves, they have a whole network of lawyers who they can contact, to find somebody who will. It will not be a satisfactory answer to the next child, G-d forbid, molested by this man that people in the community were cynical and decided not to call upon their organizations to act, because they disagreed with their politics. This would be worse than anshei Chelm, and closer to anshei S'dom.

 

To the guy who posted the comment about remedies under the State Mental Hygiene Law,

You are 100% right!!

And to the guy who posted anti Agudah & anti TT comments, give it up because as of now, no one was convicted of anything.

Back to the topic at hand, this guy is VERY SICK. There is no doubt in my mind tha we're all talking about the same guy "Nebach".
To those who seem to know who his father is, maybe contact him and tell him what is going on with his son.

 

So far no one as shown a shred of evidence to implicate this guy, all everyone here is doing is assuming that since this guy roams around the street he MUST be a child molester.

Please people if you have any proof than post otherwise it would be wise to keep quite.

 

I'm the guy who posted the comment about remedies under the Mental Hygiene Law.

To the people who posted the anti-Aguda comments, OK, you jogged my brain a little bit more. Just don't call the Aguda lawyers, and OHEL, call 311 also. Calling 911 doesn't make sense, because you probably won't see him committing a crime, which is when the police get involved. But call 311 and tell them there's a homeless guy in the neighborhood, who is attempting to molest children in the neighborhood, and he belongs in a mental hospital. They might refer you to the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, and they might have the power to investigate and bring their own proceeding in court for this guy to be committed to an institution, putting him out of reach of children, and getting him the help he needs.

To the people who don't think there is sufficient evidence against this guy: no, you're wrong. The eyewitness accounts which are posted here are credible, and they should be believed by everybody.

I also wouldn't waste time trying to contact his family in Israel, which could take a long time, and probably be futile. He's a 25 year old adult. In the meantime, children might get hurt.

As far as the extraneous comments about TT, and nobody being "convicted", I just can't let that go. Nobody will ever be convicted because unfortuntately the statute of limitations has expired. But the molester there is extremely guilty.

 

This is the way one jew treats another jew guilty before proven inocent right

 

very big talk about health and hygiene law, but inaccurate.

the process, under public health law requires a physician filling out a form called a 2PC. It must be signed by two board certified physicians (no interns), and renewed every 30 days. The physicians must establish that the patient is a danger to themseleves or other people. accusations would never be acceptable. no doctor in his right mind would risk his license for vague speculation.

 

Excuse me, Public Health Law expert, but Kendra's Law is found in Mental Hygiene Law section 9.60. Kendra was pushed off a subway platform by Andrew Goldstein, who should have been receiving treatment for his mental illness, but wasn't. Goldstein just pleaded guilty, after two trials. In response, the Legislature passed a law laying out a procedure for involuntary out patient treatment.

Where exactly in the Mental Hygiene Law you have involutary inpatient treatment, I don't know, or whether there are related provisions in the Public Health Law, I don't know, but it exists. Remember Larry Hogue? He was a homeless guy who terrorized the Upper West Side, until the City got him off the streets.

And to the other guy, "This is the way one Jew treats another"? You're a moron. How do you treat the Jewish children who have been accosted by this sick pedophile Henoch Silber? You ignore them. Hitler was never convicted of any crime either. Was he guilty?

 

This individual is sick, but he is not a molester. He is very friendly and although he may have touched a yingerman, I can assure you that it was not sexual. If the yingerman thought it was, then it is he who has problems, thinking a little pat on the back is sexual.

This story is utter nonsense, and chaptzem should be ashamed for destroying this person's life.

 

THIS MAN, HENOCH ATE BY US ON SUCCOS, HE IS DEFIATELY WEIRD AND HAS PROBLEMS, JUDGING BY THE WAY HE LOOKS. BUT HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. HE SMILED TO EVERYBODY, SHMOOZED AND SANG NICE ZEMIROS.
BUT... AFTER HE LEFT WE LOCKED ALL THE DOORS TO MAKE SURE TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
THATS WHAT YOU'R SUPPOSED TO DO, GIVE A POOR HOMELESS MAN A WARM MEAL AND BE VIGILANT FOR YOUR SAFETY.

 

TRHIS GUY ATE WITH US ONE MEAL ON SUCCOS, HE DEFINATELY HAS PROBLEMS, JUDGING BY THE WAY HE LOOKS, BUT HE SMILED TO EVERYONE, SCMOOZED, SANG ZEMIROS AND ACTED OK.
BUT....TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, AFTER HE LEFT WE LOCKED ALL OUR DOORS JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE.
THATS WHAT YIDDEN, RACHMONIM BNEI RACHMONIM HAVE TO DO WHEN YOU SEE A POOR HOMELESS MAN. FEED HIM A NICE WARM MEAL, GIVE HIM A LITTLE OF THE ATTENTION HE CRAVES, AND BE VIGILENT ON YOUR SAFETY

 

kendra's law has no teeth.
it was a political move at best.

it has not, and probably never will be used in a court of law.

you are obviously not a medical practitioner or a lawyer so you may not have the sophistication to understand the nuance of public health issues and the laws that regulate them.

so let me ask you to notice something obvious.
there are homeless people all over the city.
most of them have mental problems.
many of them are sexually inappropriate.
people complain to the city about them all the time, and for many years.

why do you believe that they are going to do somthing this time?

 

THANK YOU 10:54!!!

This story breaks my heart! I feel a little better knowing there are a few people out there making his life a little less painful.

He sounds like he has a mental illness, and just needs people to care about him.

I highly doubt he intentionally tried to hurt any children. People should be cautious, and keep an eye on their children, but still help this poor man out and talk to him when he looks for that.

A big big rachmunus!!

Imagine if he was your son, or your brother!

 

chabdeii vchasdiei,honor him but suspect him is what chazal say there was a tanna that took in a guest and gave him to sleep in the attic but took away the ladder so he shouldnt be able to take anything at night in the middle of the night he heard a loud crash and came out and saw the guy wanted to come down and take things and leave but hadnt known there was no ladder ,its a gemara.

 

MHey Kendra's Law cynic - you're a baal aveirah, trying to persuade people not to do something about a deranged pedophile roaming the streets of Boro Park. What's your plan? Do nothing? Invite him for a Shabbos meal - as if that's going to do any good. What if he asks to use the bathroom? What do you think he's going to do in there? Ever hear of Onan?

You're a a shoteh, a hedyot, and chamor all in one. WHAT DON'T YOU GET? HE'S SICK AND DANGEROUS.

The Megan's Law Registry is filled with tens of thousands of names of sick pedophiles like him who get convicted, and sit in jail for a long period of time. I just read there a half million convicted sex offenders in America. And most people committing these crimes don't even get arrested, think bout that.

People also can and do get civilly committed for mental disease.

TO ALL YOU CYNICS AND BATLANIM - STOP WITH YOUR SHTUS, AND START MAKING PHONE CALLS TO 311, 911, FELDER, HIKIND, AGUDA, OHEL.

 

ok maybe a lack of sophistication was too mild an assessment.
insulting me because i am knowledgable and experienced in public health matters will not help matters. and, it makes you seem a little simple.
i never said do nothing.
i did say that your suggestions would not accomplish anything because they don't work within the existing laws.
hear's an idea;
1. contact a competant attorney. they probably can't help you, but at least you will feel like you have done somthing.
2. if you know that sombody committed an actual crime you should report it to the police. not speculation, not rumors, actual verifiable knowledge.
3. always watch your family as if there were a predator around. most of them act normal, so you never know.

 

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